Psa Jets!!!

[jdru25]

I just heard a rumor from a friend today that PSA is possibly receiving up to 50 new RJs. Does anyone from PSA know when you guys will be taking delivery of the first new aircraft and when is the hiring going to start? Any info would be great!

 

[Tooslow]

PSA

PSA has 328Jets on order from Avcraft, which just bought the assembly line from BK Fairchild Dornier. Don't know when or where but preferential hiring is on the way from participating MEC's. A lot of 121 furloughed guys on the street right now.

 

[jdru25]

I had no clue that PSA was looking at the DOjets. I had thought they were looking at the CRJ or ERJ. I recently saw AvCraft's charter DOjet and its really impressive.

 

[Smoking Man]

Awsome!!!!!!!! What are you talking about? You seem to have more information that the line pilots. Also I guess we have been going up to YUL with MGT and Instructors in the back for no reason. Unless you are the person ordering the RJ's for us, The majority of the people on the line are in the dark about, if/when/how many/ etc. etc.

Do-Jets that would be cool, more time to goof of in ground school, already knowing the systems.

Keep them coming please.



Smoking Man

 

[328dude]

DoJets????? Funny. ROFLMAO

Smokin man, What's up.


I can certainly put the rumor of DoJets at PSA in the crapper. There is absolutly no way, PSA will get DOJets. We can't even get parts for the prop version now. We ARE getting CRJ's along with the other three wholly owned company's and ERJ-170's for Mid Atlantic and 90 seaters ERJ for Mainline. PSA is in negotiations tommorrow May5th with the company over 70 seat pay rates and a few other items that I'm not at liberty to say.
Although many of the topics regarding PSA's future are confidential from last week's meeting between PSA and Bruce Ashby, President of US Express, The CRJ is a givin, how many and when are not being released from Ashby intill the ink is dried on the deal. Also, Ashby dispelled the rumor that the three wholly owned PSA, ALG and PDT will merge into one company. I know that has been a big rumor running around. They have already started hiring and are interviewing many more than usual. The chief pilot gave preferential hiring to ACA furlughees and have already contacted some of them especially if they have CRJ time.

DoJet's LOL Where to you get this stuff.
However, I needed a good laugh. I agree with smoking man. Keep them coming.

 

[Smoking Man]

328 Dude wazzup?

I can add some information about PSA, at the DAI (Dayton Airport INN) there are currently 10 class rooms under construction, (near the end). With PSA training facility signs ready to be put up. Currently on the ground with the protective plastic over them, awaiting instillation . So something is getting ready to go down. So for those of you who have an interview, they are doing these for a reason.

Later.

 

[328dude]

Smoking Man: Haven't seen ya online lately.

Yea, I saw the pictures on our website Looks pretty nice. Apparently, there is a CRJ poster hanging backwards in one of them. I talked to HR last week and he said that they have a large number of resume's on hand and are already in the process of setting up interview dates. Although, they have preferential hiring set up with some of the other regionals. Ex. ACA they are splitting the interview classes with half furoloughee's (121 experience) and the rest with no 121 experience. Managment continues to fly to YUL every week and they best they tell me is "just sharing information".

Bruce Ashby Vice Presidnt of USAirways Express last week in a briefing to PSA said qoute "Two to Three weeks". When asked what he meant by that, he said that was all was willing to release right now.

The carrot continues to hang.

 

[WSurf]

Whats the deal with the Mainline guys that are out of work. Are they gonna be thrown in the mix???? From what we hear at Piedmont is that depending on and if we replace planes we might lose some of our guys.
Then again Asby said that one of the WO's will continue to fly Props, and no one does it better then Piedmont...heheheh
Good Luck

 

[328dude]

WSurf:

All the mainline dudes, get 50 percent of the seats. PSA needs 37 airplanes to break even and keep everyone on board at their current position. Anything over that, they will need to hire and upgrade. From what I'm hearing, we are about to triple that many. As far as PDT and ALG goes, I've been hearing the same thing, but the leases of the Dash's are running longer then our Dorniers and the Dash is a much better reliable airplane in regards to maintenence and some of the longer extended leased airplanes will be running into 2005 for the really short hops and smaller markets. PSA is already in a position to get rid of some fo them as soon as the jets arrive.

Ashby was very upbeat in his meeting and did state that all three wholly owned will recieve the bulk of the RJ orders (50Seaters) and possibly a few 70 seaters which PSA is in meetings today about. If they spread out the order like they said they would, ALG and PDT and us, won't have to furlough anyone.

 

[avratdwc]

WSurf:

PSA is already in a position to get rid of some fo them as soon as the jets arrive.

Does this mean that the guys at the bottom of the list will be gettting furloughed in order for mainline guys to move in. I dont understand. If the jets really get cranking will there be hiring going on. I have a res. on file but I have to update it. What is the name of the current recruiter. Thanx in advance.

Avrat

 

[Smoking Man]

In theory it is possible. However you cannot hatch new crews overnight, it takes about two months or more to go threw the training IOE, for the new equipment. So the people that are able would probably bid into the new aircraft (into training) as we park the dorks, keeping everyone employed.

This keeps changing all of the time but six of the dorks are to go away before the year is over. How many RJ's are we going to get, are we going to get RJ's? I would guess that we are going to get them, and as I understand it the staffing in the RJ's will be better than current levels.

This is my best SWAG, 328 dude has some better info than I, He can also answer who the new recruiter is.

Later,

Smoking Man

 

[fletch]

The head of HR is Ken Sellers

 

[328dude]

Ken Sellers or David Glenn. They handle all the resumes and schedule the interviews. They are asking that people just fax their resume in and not call. They are getting swamped with phone calls and all they will tell you is what I'm telling you know.
You can vist www.psaairlines.com for the fax number. They have already started interviewing.

As far as furlurloughes go, Smoking Man is correct with the statement that it is possible. However, all new hires are going into the Dornier. The staffing for the CRJ will be 50 percent mainline and 50 percent CURRENT PSA pilots. The staffing on the Dork is at 3.8 crews and the jet will be close to 5 per aircraft. They will need more people to keep the Dork fleet flying while all of us transfer over to the CRJ. They only way we would have to furlurlough anyone is if PSA got rid of any of the Dorks before getting the jets. That's not going to happen.
It's my understanding that we will not have to furlough anyone inless of the worst case scenario as stated above. Even if we do it would be for only a matter of weeks and not months.

 

[SpocksBeard]

This question was asked before but I don't think it was answered. Is getting the PSA application to fill out in the mail usually a sign of a call for an interview in the future? Anybody else get this app in the mail recently? I was totally not expecting anything from an airline anytime soon but I got this one and I next-day-aired the sucker as soon as I could.
Thanks.

 

[WhiteCloud]

I had no clue that PSA was looking at the DOjets. I had thought they were looking at the CRJ or ERJ. I recently saw AvCraft's charter DOjet and its really impressive.

I thought DOJets maker couldn't provide them due to bankruptcy. That's why ACA moved away from them. That was a while ago. Are they back up and making more?

 

[328dude]

Spock: Just curious, did you send a resume in before you got the app?

I have heard them doing this, but always forgot to ask him why they were doing this. I'll put a call in tommorrow and find out what it means and hopefully answer your question.

Another possibility is that they are unable to accept any applications if you don't have atleast 1500TT due to restrictions from insurance carriers. If you sent in an app without these minimum times, this might be a way for them to see if you have reached the minimums yet and schedule you.

If you don't have atleast 1500 hours TT, they cannot accept your resume.

 

[Tooslow]

ACA and the Doorknobs

ACA is still open about obtaining more Dornier Jets once thay start production again. If you read the papers, AVcraft bought the assembly line and plans to keep it in Gemany. Production will start again along with the 428. Which 328 and 428 stands for 328-428 TAS respectfully for those of you scatching your head. The 328 does has its fair share of problems. Mosly small computer problems that are decreasing day by day. Look at the CRJ 700 that Comair now has. Does anybody talk to the pilots that fly them? Same thing, engine problems, computer problems, that is the cycle of a new model of airplane.

 

[328dude]

I have heard that about the CRJ-700. I have spoken to a bunch of them since I commute on Comair, but they say the bigest complaint is some problem with the center tank. I don't know anything about the 700 series, so maybe a 700 jockie can enlighten me what that's all about.

 

[Dash8]

700 issues

buddy of mine at eagle said they've had lots of problems with the computer transfering fuel to the center tank uncommanded, screwing up their cg's and not being able to transfer the fuel back out

prolly just growing pains for the new model just like tooslow said

 

[Paladin]

I heard something about problems with the engines (fan blades) on the CRJ-700...which ended up reducing their cruise speed by .02 mach. Not sure if its still a problem or not.

Out of pure curiosity...where will the USAirways WOs get their CRJs from considering the backlog of orders at Bombardier?

 

[328dude]

Good question and one which I have not heard the answer too. I'll leave that up to the folks at corporate to figuare out.

There was a rumor of 35 aircraft down in W. Virginia waiting for something, apparently paint jobs.

Don't know if that is true though.

 

[Dash8]

sneaky sneaky

there's always the midway planes too, if judge makes them go cp7 like he recommended, i betcha the davel steps in a claims them as restitution for airways 'investment' in midway during bk.

 

[328dude]

Dash, thanks for the info from my PM

I thought Midway only had 5 airplanes or something like that.
Wonder where the other 95 are coming from.

 

[Dash8]

well, thats 5 quick/easy as for the others...who knows, cancelled orders, pre-existing orders that ge held options on... many many possibilities

no prob on the info, good luck with your idea

 

[Bluestreaker]

I've heard that GE Capital has a lot of orders for CRJ's. that could be one place they will come from. Don't quote me on that though.

 

[House_X]

I went to the info meetings given by mgt. when the ACA furloughs were announced. There is absolutely no way ACA will be buying future Dornier jets. If you went to the meetings and heard the comments on cost issues (mx & ops, Dornier really left us hanging), you would draw the same conclusion. Airways magazine even published that DCI's Bruttell "bristles" at the mention of our little froughline as well.

I love my little DO-bird...but she's a neglected lady needing TLC...I hope Avcraft can be a better "foster parent" than Dornier was as it's "natural parent". The plane deserves better....

 

[spike]

Midway's ogin away

Midway only has five CRJ's. They don't have any secretly waiting in the wings or paint shops for that matter. That is public record.

MESA (scum) has picked up some CRJ's in Airways colors and is starting to fly them out of PHL.

I only pray that Airways and WO's will take over all the MESA flying in the next few years.

Sorry, I know most pilot's are pretty cool people, hell maybe the coolest. BUT MESA represents the worst of this airline turmoil.

PRAY for JETS

 

[328dude]

Here is a interesting story that I recieved today from a PDT MEC member.

Apparently, there was a PDT deadheading crew that was going to Toronto (CYYZ) for an overnight out of PHL. The crew asked the MESA crew if they were staying in the hotel and if so, if they would call the hotel in range. The MESA crew said they were going back to PHL. Well, later that night the PDT crew saw the MESA crew in the hotel and asked what had happened and why they didn't go back to PHL. The MESA crew stated that on the way up from PHL to YYZ, they got dropping oil presures on both engines half way there but decided to continue to YYZ anyway. Well, the crew burned up both engines by the time they got to the gate. The PDT crew after hearing this were outraged that this crew would jeopordize people's lives over something like this and not make a precautionary landing.
PDT MEC is issuing a report stating that such incompetence puts their crews at risk and wish to not ride on MESA planes. If that happens, I think some other Express carriers will also not ride with MESA.

 

[Dash8]

but wait, theres more...

mind you, i'm paraphrasing from memory, but the basic jist of what happened is here.

one of our capt's (alg) was riding on a schittytaqua junkjet from buf to lga middle of winter, wings covered in snow, and still snowing, they don't de-ice, our guy says something, and the crew threatens to kick him off the plane for being a disturbance.
those contracters may have the publics precious jets, but they seem to have the most issues safety wise.
well you get what you pay for huh?

 

[ChinaClipper]

Come witness professionalism at its best

328dude, I don't think that mixing Mesa pilots inability to stand up to JO and get a decent contract, translates into being unsafe. Getting BOTH engines to do what you"informed source" claimed, is a darned hard to belive. I can assure you that I have yet to see anything in a Mesa cockpit that resembles unsafe flying ability. Stupidity in assessing the airline business and their rightful place in it, YES! Unsafe, NO! There are 1300 plus pilots here and a few may be shakey, but those exist everywhere. Yes, I am including ROA. BTW, Am I to make blanket judgements about Wholly owned carriers because I have PERSONALLY seen them leave YUL with frost on the wings and EVERYONE else was deicing? NO! I have friends at all the WO carriers who would NEVER so something like that! As for us, I can assure you that I, and many other Mesa pilots, learned a lot about flying in; Mexico in June, December in Canada, winter crud in California, Washington, Oregon. and the Rocky Mountains, 120 F heat in PHX, spring TS in Kansas and the Mid West. crappy days on the East Coast, New England, and my current cake job of flying outta DCA. Should I also assume you are no 'ho for flying former USAir mainline routes while they have pilots on furlough? I remember seeing lots of JETS in DAY as a kid, were those an illusion? How about ROA? IND? CMH? CLE? DCA? CLT? BHM? RDU? Darn it, we must ALL be low lifes! BTW I voted no and practically BEGGED everyone else too. If you know the Flight 3 of this "alledged" oil press incident, then call the feds and Mesa system ops, 1-888-643-6372, ask for a chief or at least Pro Standards. Fly safe!