Pro Pilot Article about Amway Flight Department - Impressive...

[Quimby]

I've heard both good and bad things about Amways flight dept. The biggest downside that I've heard more than once is that it's VERY political

Had a conversation with the Chief Pilot there a few years ago and the details I got was most Gulfstream flying was to Asia and Europe, 15 days off a month, start at 75-80K till you upgrade to cpt which took about 3 months then bumped up to 85-110K, after 5 years 144K. Flight dept was around 40-50 years old and never have laid off a pilot, mins are 3000ttl ATP and a jet type.

I didn't read the article so I don't know how much differs from what I was told, and again that was like 5 years ago.

I've talked to two pilots over there....one loved it, and the other hated it.

Sounds like any flying job out there.

 

[Gulfstream 200]

GV Captains making 85-110K?

Im guessing this is more false internet BS.

 

[goodgig]

GV Captains making 85-110K?

Im guessing this is more false internet BS.

Well, when you make it to Double Diamond Captain. You of course start out as a Copper FO.

 

[414Flyer]

GV Captains making 85-110K?

Im guessing this is more false internet BS.

But most of that pay is actually not from flying, but making books and videos about flying for Amway, to sell to people who want to be Amway pilots. Its called the Cockpit Officer Course Kit, and you have to go hang out at coffeeshops near flight schools, and tell random people how sharp and intelligent they are and get them to invest in C.O.C.K. and to them get others to want that same C.O.C.K too

 

[sleepy]

I worked for a charter company when I first started out in this business. The Chief Pilot sold Amway, and I later learned that you should buy his soap and become a "distributer" for him as part of the employment. I never did either and thankfully the job didn't work out.

 

[414Flyer]

USAF pilots seem to have thing for Amway too

 

[Mud Eagle]

USAF pilots seem to have thing for Amway too

I noticed that about 15 years ago, but not so much since then.

 

[LAZYB]

But most of that pay is actually not from flying, but making books and videos about flying for Amway, to sell to people who want to be Amway pilots. Its called the Cockpit Officer Course Kit, and you have to go hang out at coffeeshops near flight schools, and tell random people how sharp and intelligent they are and get them to invest in C.O.C.K. and to them get others to want that same C.O.C.K too

Amway is not about selling things...

 

[414Flyer]

yes it is more about a pyramid where people at the top make their money off of rallies, speaking, tapes, videos, and getting others to pay to join. Products being purchased, are not how those at the diamond level make most of their cash.

 

[Dep676]

There is a reason that most of the pilots there are have been there for 20 to 30 years. I believe that last time they hired was in '06 or '07. All due to retirements, IIRC.

I know the pay to start was 75k to 85k. That is when they still had Hawkers. And most people started in the Hawker, then went to the G-whiz.

Over 8 billion in sales in 2008. Not to shabby for "selling" soap.