Prater Must Resign!!

[Turtle21]

Agreed, but there are plenty of capable and experienced people within the Association that could do a much better job than Prater...

Oh take it easy on Prater. He chose to be the head of an association that has as many conflicting clients as it has lawyers. It has as many obligations as Clinton has dresses. Nicolau just brought the right dress forward to prove it. :laugh:

 

[PCL_128]

Well, I will say briefly the best way not to have to recall Prater was put the right guy in there in the first place. DW was the better choice during the last election.

A-frickin'-men!!!

But let's look to the future... if JP were to be no more... looking at those who have the most relationships built and recency of exp.....the only real choice that I am aware of is.... PR.

And he would probably be an even better choice than Duane.

 

[PHXFLYR]

Work thru your MEC and EVP..... perhaps the rez shouldn't be tabled...if your group is serious...

Also.. your group is gun shy cause the other MEC's aren't passing similiar rez's, this is were realtionship building between MEC's is important... and seriously lacking.... on this or any issue...

Also, consider the collective damage both nationally and internationally if ALPA can't keep its house in order. Yeah, we all know we are dysfunctional, but the rest of the industry, globally, actually respects us.... if we recall we can appear as a lame duck... the whole profession suffers.

Keep in mind... the profession is greater than ALPA. ALPA is only the custodian....

Thanks for the input,Rez. Quite a lot more to consider than first meets the eye. Will be interesting to see if this thing develops beyond its current form. Any recall resolutions being floated at your airline?

PHXFLYR

 

[enigma]

A-frickin'-men!!! And he would probably be an even better choice than Duane.

You gotta be kiddin me. PR is a good man, but he didn't even have the support of his own MEC at the BOD.

Instead of shooting at Prater, maybe we should all concentrate on an effort to draw members to their local meetings. Now there's a worthy cause.

Recalling a Pres, won't accomplish anything but more division.

BTW, I'd imagine that PR wouldn't touch the job today with a ten foot stick. Airways and age 60 are way too hot for anyone to handle.

If Prater gets the ax, I vote for Donatelli!!!!!!!!!!!:uzi:

 

[PCL_128]

You gotta be kiddin me. PR is a good man, but he didn't even have the support of his own MEC at the BOD.

You mean the same MEC that traded votes with the CAL MEC in order to try to get more votes for their buddy Bathurst? That godforsaken MEC is responsible for this whole damn mess. If it wasn't for them, we wouldn't be stuck with Prater right now. The fact that they don't support PR just gives him more credibility as far as I'm concerned.

If Prater gets the ax, I vote for Donatelli!!!!!!!!!!!:uzi:

As a former SPC Chair, I spent plenty of time around Donatelli. I can assure you that the office of President isn't up his alley, and he would be the first one to tell you that. The position he currently holds is perfect for him.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Any recall resolutions being floated at your airline?

PHXFLYR

I work at a regional... the pilots at my property don't seem too connected on these issues...

You gotta be kiddin me. PR is a good man, but he didn't even have the support of his own MEC at the BOD.

What does that have to do with it? PR's effectiveness while addressing ALPA's agenda, both nationally and internationally are the point. Not his MEC's agenda...

Ergo MB. A fellow pilot was working at Herndon while on furlough. MB was in the building and close by this guys office. MB wouldn't give him, a fellow company pilot, a civil hello. When discussing it later the offended pilot was told, that he had nothing MB needed...

Let's see if PR can gain support from his MEC when the new MEC Chair takes office..

Instead of shooting at Prater, maybe we should all concentrate on an effort to draw members to their local meetings. Now there's a worthy cause.

no doubt...

Recalling a Pres, won't accomplish anything but more division.

Incredibly valid...

BTW, I'd imagine that PR wouldn't touch the job today with a ten foot stick. Airways and age 60 are way too hot for anyone to handle.

but the comp package is sooooo sexy

If Prater gets the ax, I vote for Donatelli!!!!!!!!!!!:uzi:

Do tell!!

 

[n52gp]

Fair enough... I was responding to others....

Well..... let's define a job well done....

Now, of course many will say that ALPA has done a poor job the last seven years....

If we are critique the leadership then the membership is fair game...

Did a I miss someone addressing this: What responsibilities does the membership have...?

Finally, if ALPA has done a poor job...why? Answer the question from this perspective....

If ALPA has failed the membership's expectations... objectively justify those expectations.....

For example:

ALPA has gutted the profession with the concessionary contracts during the BK era. ALPA should just shut it all down: National Strike.

I pay my dues!!! that's what i do as a member. Prater and (other leaders) accepted the responsibilty to lead and wanted the "power" that comes with it. when they go against the majority, they deserve all the wrath that they get. f@&$ the class of '83 and prater!!!!

 

[Vne]

ALPA is only the custodian....

Considering the changes since 1978 and I think they have failed ...........repeatedly
Its just a job now it used to be a profession.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Considering the changes since 1978 and I think they have failed ...........repeatedly
Its just a job now it used to be a profession.

Agreed......whlile some feel indentifying the problem is enough... change occurs when pragmatic solutions are dervived and implented...

What do you suggest?