"Poz and Hold" versus "On the Hold"

[ProFracPilot]

I like "Line up (and wait)" better than position and hold, anyway. I just pray they don't start that "Behind arriving 737 on 3 mile final line up and wait Runway 22 behind" bullsh*t......

I agree, I don't care for that clearance at all. But I guess they're able to facilitate X number of additional departures per hour by using it. The first time I heard it was while waiting for departure at LHR (I'm going back 12-15 years). I thought the controller was bloody joking.

 

[Patriot328]

I agree, I don't care for that clearance at all. But I guess they're able to facilitate X number of additional departures per hour by using it. The first time I heard it was while waiting for departure at LHR (I'm going back 12-15 years). I thought the controller was bloody joking.

Yeah I still don't know how it's faster than giving the line up clearance when the arriving traffic is crossing the threshold, though. Either way you will (or should) be ready to go by the time the landing traffic turns off the rwy.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

"Poz & Hold" & "on the hold" both sound ridiculous.

Just read the clearance back.

They do sound silly but there is a method to the madness. It is the Air Force equivalent of the bathroom stall toe tap. It is just a subtle way of letting the guy they are flying with that they are available on the overnight.