"Poz and Hold" versus "On the Hold"

[waveflyer]

Haha- maybe a riddle grad and an academy grad can just fight it out in a sanctioned aviation debate - the rest of us will get the job done and make sure we're clear-

 

[PeanuckleCRJ]

I always just pull it out and hold it.

 

[Vastly Underemp]

So what is the LGA equal-opportunity controller going to say when she can no longer say "Pozit-sin an hode"?

 

[HalinTexas]

"Assume the position."

"Pull it out and hold it."

Seriously, read it back like he told you. If you "no comprende" ask for clarification.

 

[Patriot328]

"Line up and wait" is soon to be standard here in the U.S. More assimilation to ICAO standards.

I like "Line up (and wait)" better than position and hold, anyway. I just pray they don't start that "Behind arriving 737 on 3 mile final line up and wait Runway 22 behind" bullsh*t......

 

[ProFracPilot]

I like "Line up (and wait)" better than position and hold, anyway. I just pray they don't start that "Behind arriving 737 on 3 mile final line up and wait Runway 22 behind" bullsh*t......

I agree, I don't care for that clearance at all. But I guess they're able to facilitate X number of additional departures per hour by using it. The first time I heard it was while waiting for departure at LHR (I'm going back 12-15 years). I thought the controller was bloody joking.

 

[Patriot328]

I agree, I don't care for that clearance at all. But I guess they're able to facilitate X number of additional departures per hour by using it. The first time I heard it was while waiting for departure at LHR (I'm going back 12-15 years). I thought the controller was bloody joking.

Yeah I still don't know how it's faster than giving the line up clearance when the arriving traffic is crossing the threshold, though. Either way you will (or should) be ready to go by the time the landing traffic turns off the rwy.

 

[Pogue Mahone]

"Poz & Hold" & "on the hold" both sound ridiculous.

Just read the clearance back.

They do sound silly but there is a method to the madness. It is the Air Force equivalent of the bathroom stall toe tap. It is just a subtle way of letting the guy they are flying with that they are available on the overnight.