Post-mediation NetJets thoughts

[El Chupacabra]

Jolly Roger,

How many CEOs and management officers were investigated by SEC and or Eliot Spitzer?

Can you say Ken Lay Martha Stewart Hank Greenberg WorldCom Global Crossing?

It must have been some funny accounting that allowed the company to say there was no money for raises while posting record profits.

Go TEAMSTERS and STMFD!

 

[Jolimon]

Spoken just like the union rep you are.

 

[Jolimon]

You argue that there have been public companies that have lied and cheated. I agree but it does not make it Ok for the Teamsters to steal pension money from their members as they have clearly done. They are not the lesser of two evils there must be a better way.

 

[El Chupacabra]

Separation of Powers. Its the American way. Without a Union you have no power... Just a dictatorship of management. We have our own local. WE call the shots.

 

[Jolimon]

it doesn't seem to be working out that well for you. Example the non union shops pay better and are more responsive. It is alarming that you are so accepting of a trully criminal group.

 

[El Chupacabra]

There you go , blaming the victim. Union workers have been victimized by abusive managements and criminals.

What non union shops are paid better? Only CS is paid better. The other Fictional Ownership companies have work rules and schedules that are not worth the extra pay.

Additionally by far the highest paid Fractional Pilots with the best work rules are TEAMSTERS flying the BBJ.

 

[Jolimon]

There you go , blaming the victim. Union workers have been victimized by abusive managements and criminals.

What non union shops are paid better? Only CS is paid better. The other Fictional Ownership companies have work rules and schedules that are not worth the extra pay.

Additionally by far the highest paid Fractional Pilots with the best work rules are TEAMSTERS flying the BBJ.

Do you actually believe this stuff? We know you are a union rep because your facts are always wrong. Keep misleading your members eventually they will figure it out and they will create their own voice.

 

[netjetwife]

it doesn't seem to be working out that well for you. Example the non union shops pay better and are more responsive. It is alarming that you are so accepting of a trully criminal group.

Any open-minded, fair person would recognize that the NJ pilots are moving in a new direction--their own local--under new leadership--StrongUnion, an organization made up of hundreds of dedicated volunteers. The SU/MEC has only been in office 4 months but has already produced tangible results. As the new local is still getting up and running, it does not yet have a record to be judged on. NJ pilots will soon be in charge of their OWN destinies for the first time. Fairness demands that this group is held accountable for THEIR actions alone.

 

[Starman]

Why are you wasting time arguing with this moron jolimon. He's obviously as dumb as a fence post and he's not a netjets pilot. Who cares what his opnion is? It's sort of like wrestling with a pig in mud. It accomplishes nothing and the pig enjoys it.

 

[netjetwife]

It's not about the PIG in the mud, but the farmers that might have stopped by to watch....or read, in our case. It's possible to use another's post to get your own message out there. Works for me. In fact, you will rarely ever see me start a thread/conversation.

 

[slowto250]

Joli,

From what base of experience do you speak ?

Have you worked for both union and non-union aviation concerns ?

Judging from your profile, I rather doubt it.

What vested interest do you have in the outcome of this skirmish ?

Let me see if I understand your position. You believe the pilots would be better off without any representation ? Maybe it just the Teamsters that you find so reprehensible.

For the record, and as a whole, the Teamsters represent their labor interests quite well, even in aviation. If you need examples, I'd be happy to oblige.

IMHO, the situation at Netjets will be resolved because of the solidarity of their workforce. This is really the underlying concept behind all unions. One voice.

One of our founding fathers said it best: "We must hang together, or surely we shall all hang separately".

Wonder where we might find you swinging ?

 

[Jolimon]

Starman: Call me dumb but I am happy where I work. You seem to be very irritated with your current situation so I don't see it as working for you. Just because you disagree I am a moron. Thats the problem with the union mentality in a nutshell.

 

[slowto250]

Starman: Call me dumb but I am happy where I work. You seem to be very irritated with your current situation so I don't see it as working for you. Just because you disagree I am a moron. Thats the problem with the union mentality in a nutshell.

Spurned applicant, or scablist refugee ?

Which are you ?

 

[Jolimon]

Just happy I am not paying 68 bucks a month plus an initiation fee to be as unhappy as you are. Bet you wish you could have it to do all over again but you are stuck and you can't admit it.

 

[slowto250]

Just happy I am not paying 68 bucks a month plus an initiation fee to be as unhappy as you are. Bet you wish you could have it to do all over again but you are stuck and you can't admit it.

Tell you what I am.....I am taking Starman's advice.