Political Threads

[mar]

The 2004 election? Lost cause.

I've got five bucks that says Bush wins.

Forget about it. It's a lost cause. The republicans have *already* amassed millions and millions (in my best Sagan) of dollars.

Corporate donations and special interest will guarantee this election is open and shut.

The democrats have nothing to work with.

The third parties (ya gotta love 'em) will run their spoilers (they wish!)...

...but Bush (and his men in the shadows) have already won.

But that won't stop me from voting third party (probably for the Green candidate). I refuse to vote democrat, democratic? democ....you know, the other guy.

Already there is talk within the Green Party about withholding a nomination for their candidate. They're scared (again) of taking votes from the Dems but a recent vote showed strong support for running one anyway.

I'll vote for him. Or her.
You must vote your conscience.
Good luck. We're gonna need it.

 

[350DRIVER]

I am going to enjoy hearing you blow a vein for the next four years after Bush gets elected. I get a strong sense of satisfaction from the level of anger and frustration you express over it.

Ahaa... I find it quite comical but thank you for your level of concern and the time that you have spent reading the posts. Keep smoking that crack if you truly think that he will get re-elected. Any other intellectually stimulating points that you would like to add "bart".??

The voters will decide in 04.

They sure will, 04" cannot get here soon enough.

Bush tried to bake a cake (IRAQ), made a mess in the kitchen(our country), and what's worse is that the cake did not even rise. (No WMD,No Sadaam, etc.etc.)

In the process however he has become the laughing stock of most nations so he does give us someone to laugh at. It was a complete joke BUT hey we are a safer nation now. LOL


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TB> I won't waste my time anymore on a flawed circus act who thinks he knows it all.

>>enigma, if you forgot regardless of these so called votes that were not counted in your opinion that you seem to think would have given the popular to Bush it is FACT that Bush did loose the popular vote of this country as it stands present day. You may be bitter but do not try and twist what has taken place and put it into your own words because you are pi$$ed cause this fool got elected the way he did.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Re: The 2004 election? Lost cause.

...millions and millions (in my best Sagan)...

Actually, Sagan never said that.

But that's another thread...

 

[Timebuilder]

TB> I won't waste my time anymore on a flawed circus act who thinks he knows it all.

When you can't attack the ideas, you must try to attack the person.

Right out of the James Carville playbook.

I guess you told me.

 

[350DRIVER]

TB- Since you seem to know it all I just figured I would be wasting my time... Not to mention how "experienced" you are in politics.

Keep sippin the kool aid

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[Timebuilder]

To think I expected a reasoned and well thought out response to my post of earlier today.

Whatever was I thinking. Maybe I just misjudged the level of discourse.

 

[350DRIVER]

Whatever was I thinking. Maybe I just misjudged the level of discourse.

I can think of a million and one better things to do than waste my time responding to someone who thinks he knows it all. I would rather go to a trailer park and find a cute 300lb date before I would respond to what you have said.. You have done nothing more than inject personal opinions into these political posts and you hope by the grace of God I suppose that people take your word on your ideas and concepts that someone has brainwashed into your head, fortunately enough can see the larger picture and will stay away and not bite. Think or believe as you wish but please be assured that no sleep will be lost on this end. You have your beliefs and ideas and I have mine so what is there to debate.? I refuse to listen to self injected posts that show nothing but personal opinions coming from someone who has to continually try and sell "why" they know it all, it truly does take away from the credibility of the poster. Quite comical though at many times so I won't complain too too much


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[Timebuilder]

you are pi$$ed cause this fool got elected the way he did.

Just a note for those who do not know this. Bush "got" elected the same way that presidents have been elected for a long time: he was elected by the electoral college.

Now I can't speak for Enigma, but I can say that I am happy that our president was elected according to the law of the land.

if you really honestly think that this sentence describes the core belief system of the Republican Party, you're on crack.

I'd be happy to listen to your concept of the core values of the republican party. It may be the Katie Couric or the View version, but what the heck, I'll listen.

 

[Timebuilder]

...but Bush (and his men in the shadows) have already won.

Mar, I never had you pegged for one of those conspiracy characters...

 

[Timebuilder]

I refuse to listen to self injected posts that show nothing but personal opinions coming from someone who has to continually try and sell "why" they know it all, it truly does take away from the credibility of the poster. Quite comical though at many times so I won't complain too too much

Another attack..

No substance.

Some mudslinging.

Some anger.

Some insults.

What was the word Mar used?

Hmm.



For the rest of us:

Any time people get together and discuss politics, opinions play an important role. Why? because the same events can be interpreted in different ways, depending on many factors. If you have enough facts, gained over years of experience, such as I find with several people here, we can have an interesting time exchanging ideas, rather than insults.

Just wanted to say thanks to the majority of posters who contribute real ideas and thoughtful opinions, on ALL of the topics we discuss on this forum. I AM grateful.

 

[350DRIVER]

Any time people get together and discuss politics, opinions play an important role. Why? because the same events can be interpreted in different ways, depending on many factors. If you have enough facts, gained over years of experience, such as I find with several people here, we can have an interesting time exchanging ideas, rather than insults.

And you sir are always right in your mind... Atleast "you" believe in your own ideas even though you show nothing but "opinion" and hope to gain support from others on this board. I am sorry that I won't buy into the bu!!sh!t that you spew onto this board but I am sure others may so keep at it. Keep supporting Bush cause the train will be soon be coming to an end. It is not that I am posting out of "anger", I actually find you very comical when I read what you have to say since you are so high and full of yourself when it comes to politics so please don't worry about I.

Too comical (but wait, shouldn't I be angry?) LOL


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[Typhoon1244]

And you sir are always right in your mind...

To be fair, aren't we all?

 

[mar]

The Slippery Slope! Use Caution!

I hesitate, once again. And once again I succumb.

350 wrote: "I can think of a million and one better things to do than waste my time responding to someone who thinks he knows it all."

Right about now, I'm finding that very hard to believe. It seems you have nothing better to do. And apparently neither do I. Please son, give it a rest. We'll let ya sit at the big table when you grow some hair on yer balls....mkay?

And Timebuilder wrote: "I never had you pegged for one of those conspiracy characters."

Are you KIDDING? I'm a huge conspiracy nut!

--Oswald may have fired a bullet but there was *at least* one other, probably three (you know, triangulation and all that) other shooters.

--TWA 800 was shot down and covered up.

--The Trilateral Commission has more to do with who gets elected in this country than the Electoral College.

--The CIA controls the weather *but* they have nothing to do with Chemtrails--those are actually Soviet....

heh.

The last one was a joke--but--I'm as serious as a heart attack about the others.

There are more but I'm in the middle of three loads of wash. I'll catch ya on the spin cycle.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Re: The Slippery Slope! Use Caution!

We'll let ya sit at the big table when you grow some hair on yer balls [350driver]...mkay?

Aw, don't be like that. Reminds me of Bart.

I'm a huge conspiracy nut!

There are [a lot of conspiracies] but I'm in the middle of three loads of wash. I'll catch ya on the spin cycle.

Be careful...there's a microphone in the agitator...

 

[Timebuilder]

you show nothing but "opinion" and hope to gain support from others on this board. I am sorry that I won't buy into the bu!!sh!t that you spew onto this board but I am sure others may so keep at it. Keep supporting Bush cause the train will be soon be coming to an end.

Well, I'm not sure where you think I need "support" from others on this board. For certain, if I wasn't at least relatively certain of what I was saying, I probably wouldn't be saying it. I didn't realize that this would be a revelation.

You have yet to identify and refute any of the "bu!!sh!t that (I) spew onto this board". I'm surprised that you are so certain that the "train will soon be coming to an end". Maybe you know something that no one else does. While I think it is VERY likely that Bush will win handily, I have no basis at all for certainty.

Let's talk about anger. Go back and look at the unusual number of curse words you used in the post that promped me to identify you as being young and cocky. Now, look at the sarcasm of your recent posts, and the insults. No refuting of points I posed, just a reaction that appears juvenile, at best. This is a way of disguising anger, no matter how much you may laugh at my posts, something really has your gonads in a knot. You claim to be laughing, but very little in your posts indicates that. Just empty sarcasm, and a bad attitude. I'm no shrink, and I never played one on TV, but it sounds like "issues" to me. It reminds me of a TV movie from back in the 70's about a stressed out houswife who was on the verge of a nervous breakdown. It was called "I'm dancing just as fast as I can". Scary stuff.

Mar, I had no idea that you were a Trilateral fan. What about the Council on Foreign Relations? I usually hear them mentioned in the same breath as the Trilateralists.

I don't know about flight 800. What was to be gained by shooting down an airliner?

Yeah, I'm pretty much convinced that Oswald wasn't a lone gunman. At the least. he had help, and probably a second rifle near the parked car on the grassy knoll, behind the fence.

Gee, I haven't talked about that since the 70's. Farm out.

 

[bigD]

Someone get Timebuilder a job!

His posts are reaching surplus-like magnitudes! Anyone have a line on a Lear job for him?

 

[Timebuilder]

Don't forget, D, I'm still over 500 posts BEHIND Bobby!

That guy must have the site up in the background all day long at the law office!!!!!

Actually, when advertising starts to pick up in the spring I'll be sending out my 2004 commercial and narration reel, and I hope to be a little more busy by then.

Thanks for the thought, though. If I can get a type during an 8410 ride at SimCom, maybe I can still do some flying...

It's a matter of time and money.

 

[WrightAvia]

If I can get a type during an 8410 ride at SimCom, maybe I can still do some flying...

What's going on? Good luck regardless...

 

[350DRIVER]

I think me and chicaga are takin him to LAS.. We have something in mind..


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[greyhound]

Het T.B.......

You asked who I had in mind to replace Bush?
I'm still learning about the candidates for the other parties.
Then I'll make an informed decision.

You also say Bush waited too long.........You would have preferred a surprise attack on Iraq?
Can we just surprise attack ANY country we want to?
Any country we believe poses a threat to us?
Before justifying it? I don't belive so!
Not even 9/11 justified going after Iraq!!!
I'll tell you why...

1.It has not been "proven" that 9/11 and Sadaam were connected.
2.It was also never "proven" Sadaam posed an imminent threat to us.

9/11 justified going into Afghanistan, but not Iraq.
Bush was being an opportunist.

We don't know everything that goes on behind the scenes in the White House or the Pentagon. But even if they did have "proof " which we knew nothing about. Why hasn't it been disclosed? We won the war ....Right?
Show us and the world you were right all along Mr. Bush?
Show us that WMD!!!!!
Justify the lives that were lost. The $$ being spent.
Show the 7% unemployed in this country they lost their job for a reason!
Mr. Bush really hasn't been able to do this.
That is my problem with Bush.

He and his administration seem to think they can just go out, attack anyone they want, and not have to be accountable for it.

Mr. Bush is not demonstrating what true American values are to the rest of the world.
Were are supposed to be a country of tolerance and respect for others.
Anti- American sentimism is rising because we have a president that basically told the world the U.S can do whatever it pleases without having to justify it beforehand.
We claim to be in the United Nations, but we make our own decisions.

This type of attitude only feeds the anger of terrorist.
Paving the way for MORE attacks!
Last time I checked, violence only produced more violence.

You think the Guy who lost his house and entire family because of a bombing raid in Iraq isn't going to want revenge?
He's probably signing up for the next class of terrorism 101 at a terrorist training camp.

I'm not saying we should have baked Sadaam a cake or passed out friedship bracelets, but Bush should have waited for U.n approval. He took matters into his own hands.
The result.....
1. Part of the world actually sided with Sadaam.
All of a sudden Bush became the biggest threat to the world with his arrogant, impulsive thinking.

I preferred it when this country was looked upon. We were the good guys, they were the bad guys.
Bush has turned that around in three years.
The thought of having him for another four years worries me that Bush will finish what he's started:
The demise of a great nation!

Also....Are we any safer in this country? At our airports or power plants?
You think terrorists are going to be afraid of our might TSA's?
The immigration dept. is more concerned about illegal aliens at Wal-Mart who are just here to work.
But "Thank GOD we don't have to worry about those illegals hurting us with their deadly mops and brooms. (sarcasm)
The government should be concerned about protecting us from the real threats this country has.

By going into Iraq in the manner we did, we only fueled the fire.
We are now armed with deficits, unemployment, world instability and I just can't imagine what another four more years of this will bring.



Sorry about the long post.........