Polar Air Hiring

[jeff kent]

I have 1050 pilots senior to me on furlough. If the company doesn't get labor, the creditors, and the government to play along I will have 3,750 senior to me on furlough since they plan to shrink to 165 planes if they have to go into CH 11. I am a minimum of 5 years from being at the bottom of the reserve list. I am more interested in staying in aviation and paying the bills than wondering if U will survive to call me back. If they are bought while we are on the street there is no guarantee that we will go with the sale. I don't want to end up like the people that stayed on at Braniff, Eastern, and Pan Am hoping for a miracle.

Jeff

 

[reepicheep]

Hey Jeff Kent, been on any motorcycles lately?<g>

Anyway I'm a fellow US Airways pilot and I think you're being prudent. In fact, I'm still on the property with 1,000 junior to me and I'm avidly seeking new employment. I don't feel there will be a spot for me at the "restructured" US Airways (which will almost surely entail CH. 11), and even if there was, after 15 years a bottom reserve 737 copilot slot with no retirement for an airline that still has a limited future? A lot of us are asking the same questions and I think you'll see a lot of applicanats at JB, SW, etc...

 

[justApilot]

For what it is worth a buddy of mine just left Eagle for Polar. He started class this week with 11 other guys. He was the youngest in the interview group by about 15-20 years. I don't think that Polar has a LAX base, I think that everyone is based in JFK.

 

[ILS JNKY]

Freight jobs

Any great ideas on how to break in to this area of flying ??

 

[TriStar_drvr]

Yes. Work hard. Get several thousand flight hours. Get at least a thousand hours as a captain on a turbine powered aircraft, preferably operating under Part 121. Time in a heavy jet and international experience wouldn't hurt.

I hate to break it to you ILS, but there are no shortcuts. Just because a company like Polar is not well known like United or American, doesn't mean its pilots are less qualified. Polar may not pay as much as the majors, but believe me, its pilots are equally skilled as those at the majors.

It's been stated on this board many times, if you want it bad enough, you'll get it. You just have to keep plugging away.

I know this probably sounds like a smart a-- answer. I'm just giving it to you the way I see it. My guess is that since you're already on this board seeking information, you have the desire and passion to get it.

Good luck,
Brad

 

[Frac Daddy]

ILS JNKY,


Tri-Star is right. To get to the point where you can go to a place like Polar, you will need quite a bit more time. But if you are talking about freight in general, you are not that far from qualified for places like Ameriflight, AirNet, etc. I cut my teeth at 1300 hours flying freight in a 402. Great experience. Good luck.

 

[Rook]

Jeff,

I know you and Barry B. dont get along. But to actually quit the Giants to fly freight? Man oh man things cant be THAT bad...sorry I had too. I've been thinking about applying to Atlas/Polar but the issues regarding the pilot groups just makes me a little unsure. I appreciate the posts and hopefully they both work something out. Hopefully Atlas pilots will fly Atlas routes and vice versa. Whipsawing hurts everyone but mgmt. Fly safe guys.

Rook

600' AGL Autopilot on.
'WHEW'!

 

[CCDiscoB]

Must everything be so depressing. I've got to quit reading this board.

We've got airlines collapsing, a flood of pilots and a 500hr rookie asking for a job. Dude, just go buy your time and ATP and all will be fine.

 

[Icebergclub]

2 days to Strike Deadline......

AAI ALPA
STRIKE Committee


STRUCK WORK POLICIES OF THE ATLAS MEC


A. POLAR -
No flying of additional aircraft compared to pre-strike levels, or
picking
up of Atlas customers, freight, or routes.

1. Limiting Polar Fleet to Pre-Strike levels -- no additional Atlas or
unplanned additional aircraft to Polar after the strike deadline. This
will
consist of comparing operations to the existing Polar Fleet pre- strike
(including taking into account the preexisting previously announced
fleet
enlargement plan and schedule). Operation of any new additional
aircraft or
transfers of aircraft from Atlas (previously owned, leased or operated
by
Atlas) would be considered struck work. Previously planned and
"already in
the pipeline" additional aircraft or transfers of aircraft from Atlas
would
not be considered struck work. This means that Polar crews may
continue to
operate their previously scheduled operations and aircraft, as well as
any
additional aircraft whose deliveries to Polar were legitimately planned
prior to May 28, 2002 but may not have been delivered prior to 1201AM
June
28, 2002. Operation of any additional Polar capacity in the form of
any
additional aircraft bey!
ond that would be considered stuck work. The Atlas MEC will closely
coordinate on this issue with the Polar MEC.

2. Prohibiting Polar from picking up Atlas customers, freight or
routes.
Limiting Polar to pre-strike traditional "Polar" flying. If Polar
attempts
to pick up customers, freight or routes flown by Atlas, it would be
considered struck work. Again, the Atlas MEC will closely coordinate on
this
issue with the Polar MEC.

B. AACS - No flying of Atlas Aircraft (i.e., owned, leased or operated)
or
routes.


1. AACS crewmembers not to fly any Atlas aircraft.

2. AACS crewmembers not to fly routes flown by Atlas pre-strike.

AAI ALPA
STRIKE Committee



C. Requests of Other Pilot Groups
- No operation of Dry-leased Atlas Aircraft

1. Foreign Pilot Groups

* IFALPA Recruitment and Training Ban for Atlas and AACS.

2. Foreign and Domestic Pilot Groups

* No operation of Atlas aircraft dry-leased from Atlas after strike
begins.

* No operation under contract which financially benefits Atlas (except
for
preexisting dry-leases of Atlas aircraft predating the strike).

D. GSS Issues

If GSS obtains certificate during Atlas strike, GSS pilots to fly no
more
than the two 747s that Atlas has flown to service the BA contract. No
flights of these 2 aircraft other than per historical service pattern
for
BA.