Please help! In the first years of your career, did you ever...

[InTransit]

yes this is how I respond to a stupid idea. Pilot pay is low for the first couple of years. OMG what a tragedy, no other professions would dare to start new hires at low salaries. I am so shocked that everyone does not automatically get paid 747 CA rates. What is the compensation you deserve? If you don't get what you feel you are worth, quit and go somewhere else. No one is holding a gun to your head.

You are actually quite out of touch. If this doesn't affect you, then get out of the way.

 

[crj567]

You should also look into a little airline called "MESA." They actually sent crews on the shorter overnights equipped with a board to place between the aisles to sleep on-rather than a hotel room.

BTW-

MESA
SUCKS!!!!!!


-Roll That!

 

[kingair1]

I am a 3rd year pilot for Alaska Airlines

Still on WIC to this date. It will end after August.

My oldest son qualified for reduced meal purchase in 7th grade last year.

Last year we missed the Food stamp program by making $ 100.00 over the monthly maximum pay requirements for a family of 5.

Lost over $ 35,000.00 in savings to funding my MAJOR AIRLINE PILOT JOB making mortgage payments. ( my fault for not budgeting ). Keep in mind we live in a 1989 split level home 30 miles East of Seattle. This house was a fixer upper when bought in 2006.

And pilots are overpaid ???? **ck that Sh** !!!

 

[N813CA]

Why do you hate these parents that make an effort to pay for their childrens education? Even if it is $100,000 +. I have to respect the parents for starting a college fund 30 years ago. Sick and tired of hearing about it.

 

[QOL_is_great:)]

I remember my first year in the regionals (Jan 99-Dec 99) and with the last two months as a captain I made $19K for the year. Well below the federal limit to receive gov't. help with my family of four.

Only reason I couldn't recieve the money is I worked a part-time gig (national guard pilot) and that small amount of coin pushed me over the cutoff. I wanted to continue to my service after leaving active duty and also knew hard work was better then being a slacker. It caused more time away from home but it worked out in the end.

View Airline Pilot Central for pay scales. Remember the pilots my earn a certain amount of coin per hour, but that's for maybe only 80 hours of pay per month.

Example via the above mentioned web site. A B1900 FO earning $20 per hour on 3rd year pay is flying 80 hours per month is only bringing in $1,600 gross. If that same pilot has 12 bid periods and each is 80 hours credit per month then said pilot will see $19,200 for the year, gross.

 

[relief tube]

best of luck with the film....and sifting through the BS on this thread.

Year one wages per my social security statement was $19,000. As for hourly payrates, typically whatever your rate is, roughly that multiplied by 1000 is your yearly salary. Subtract $2000 though for crashpad dues, not to mention food while away from home- which is never cheap. only thing we save on is gas money for not driving to work 5 times a week.

 

[pilotyip]

Did mom tell you, son

I think we found Pilot Yip's illegitimate son, conceived with a stripper.

Kalifornia, she promised she wouold never tell you I was your father. BTW My first years in flying, I lived on $500/mo, lived with my wife in a $65/mo furnished garage, those were wonderful years. My employer the US Navy.

 

[buscap]

Nevermind

 

[acarpe3448]

Started at $around $14.00 per flight hour. Qualified for food stamps the first two years. Took around 4 years to break $30,000. Eight years to make it to a major airline. Within two years at a major, lost my pension, took around 40% pay cuts, gave up a lot of other things. I see managements pay and bonus does not match the pain the others have had to bear. What a surprise.

 

[JoeMerchant]

We as a union did this to ourselves...While entry level pilots made poverty level wages.....Senior widebody pilots worked 10 days a month for 300K and 180K in retirement....We took from the new guys to give to the senior folks....We did it to ourselves...

A more sensible approach would have been to raise the entry level and lower the top end....Like most other professions...

We did it to ourselves...Nobody to blame but ourselves.....

 

[JustaNumber]

We as a union did this to ourselves...While entry level pilots made poverty level wages.....Senior widebody pilots worked 10 days a month for 300K and 180K in retirement....We took from the new guys to give to the senior folks....We did it to ourselves...

A more sensible approach would have been to raise the entry level and lower the top end....Like most other professions...

We did it to ourselves...Nobody to blame but ourselves.....

Joe, please don't take it personally, but your misuse and abuse of ellipses in EVERY POST just drives me batty. Let me introduce you to the comma and period. It's a beautiful thing:

We as a union did this to ourselves. While entry level pilots made poverty level wages, senior widebody pilots worked 10 days a month for 300K and 180K in retirement. We took from the new guys to give to the senior folks; we did it to ourselves!

A more sensible approach would have been to raise the entry level and lower the top end, like most other professions.

We did it to ourselves. Nobody is to blame but ourselves!

There. You look like a polished professional now!