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Net result is +6 newhires. The displacements are coming from MEM Saabs going away.
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PinnaColaba's realignment this week!
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Net result is +6 newhires. The displacements are coming from MEM Saabs going away.
The question is how many get absorbed by bumps or thrown into a secondary.
Isn't PCL running classes of 14 every two weeks?
I am guessing this won't be as big as people think. The big ones are where everyone gets to displace everyone. There aren't a lot of pilots that can displace at this point (if any because they may just absorb them). I guess they have 3 classes listed for the 200, so it can't be that small either.
10 new 900 captains in Atlanta...with the Pncl pilots at there max looks like it will be mostly Mesaba guys....My Guess there are a few Mem Saab Captains senior to the Mem 900 Captains. They will push the bottom Half of the mem 900 captains to Atl 900 captains...Result displacing the bottom PNCL 900 Captains. Since they had to displace PNCL Mem 200 Captains to Atl they are still to junior to hold the 200 in Memphis...So the real question is where can the bottom 900 Atl Captains go? Thoughts?
The realignment clearly states:
**The Company may not award secondary vacancies created as a result of the 11-08 Realignment Award** 
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From all thoughts on the roadshow that they were going to design these vacancies in such a way that it would prevent the chain reaction displacements you guys are talking about.
My money is on absorption for now. Adjustment later down the line.
The company does not have the resources to partially flush the whole system.
My money is on absorption for now. Adjustment later down the line.
The company does not have the resources to partially flush the whole system.
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I think Pinnacle is still backfilling all of the new hire slots from the last two vacancies, there was a bunch of them
I agree. But.....is PCL still running new hire classes?
The PNCL 900 CA's can't be displaced before XJ guys are displaced. 9E is right at their -900 quota/ratio minimum so it would be a XJ guy moved. 9E only has ATL -900's.
Good eye sir.
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Simon, I'm calling to see the training footprint for switching over. What I can gather so far is a full training cycle. 3 months of training for an aircraft you've flown for 3+ years.
No Bueno.
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All XJ Jet guys are going to have to go through transition no matter what. It's just a matter of when.
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I talked with D. Van... and he said to expect a full training event unless he can pull together a short course and approved before the training date. I am just going to go ahead and expect the full course. Freaking awsome!!! Plus I expect the ground portion to be in MEM and possibly the Sim portion also which means no per diem since we are MEM based.
I suppose you are switching to ATL also. If you ever want to go take a look around or need transportation to look around give me a shout. We got a spare bedroom and a golf cart to go cruising around.
No. It's a matter of "How Long." if every transferring pilot has to go through a 3 month training cycle, the integration will never happen, and we will be BK soon.
I imagine he will be in the first class too. Can't be a chief without being current on an aircraft on the certificate.
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Talk to the POIs. They should be developing an abbreviated program... but you have to think that training would be more than a 3 day refresher.
You are essentially relearning the aircraft the Pinnacle way. That may seem redundant to you now, but getting standard under a single certificate will save many headaches later on.
I fully anticipate an abbreviated training. 3 days - 3 weeks sounds about right. 3 months is out of the question. There's no redundancy, I am fully aware of what has to happen here. Nothing will be standard for awhile, there are things to be learned on both sides. The aircraft is the same, and it doesn't take long to learn a checklist or profile. You can get a type on a 737 in 2 weeks. That's flows, checklists, systems, orals, sim, and checkride. That may seem short to you now, but it has been an accepted practice for a lllooonnngg time.
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The program was already submitted. The 3 month question is if and when it gets FAA approval.
Modified my post while you were typing, sorry.
I understand. Hopefully there is more information prior to the closing date. I will be following closely.
Yea, I made a few phone calls to those that put the program together and put my head in the office of the guy who is technically "in charge" of it. All seem to think the program will be much like the MOU pilots' setup. It was something like 2.5 weeks in the school house, a couple sims, and a couple legs of OE and done. Total of about 3 weeks. Waiting on the FAA blessing. First to move will be the XJ -200's. Then the -900's. Last I was told the -900's aren't slated to do the "move" until next year.
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