Pinnacle, the next Mesa

[machaf]

So is the realistic timeline for street captain roughly 7 months before you see captain pay?

Don't even consider going to Pinchanickle. I don't want to have to say "I told you so", like I told the last guy who didn't listen.

Plus 7 months from now, Pinnacle will be shut down. STFD!

 

[SEVEN]

Don't even consider going to Pinchanickle. I don't want to have to say "I told you so", like I told the last guy who didn't listen.

Plus 7 months from now, Pinnacle will be shut down. STFD!

I agree 9E is a subpar regional airline at best. But I don't think they will be shut down in the near future. They will probably shrink drastically in the future but that's only if there is a NW/Delta merger and Mesaba and Compass aquire all the options for the 900 and the 170. Then and only then will they begin to park a large majority of Pinnacle's 200's.

 

[Salukipilot4590]

fos who cannot speak on the radio

...so you were perfect the second you started talking on the radio at an airport you havent been to in an airplane that goes 3X faster than your mind can wrap around.

Right-o

You sir have won the internet...

 

[XJohXJ]

If you are happier collecting unemployment, go for it. I am glad to see my tax money put to good use.

Unemployment insurance is not funded by individual citizens through income tax. It is paid for by the employers, via a payroll tax.

 

[Top Gum]

YES, at least 7 months to CA pay and no insurance for about 6 months.

Be very cautious of any promises at any airline.

DTW is the junior base and you will be on reserve forever.

Right now it takes about 3 ½ years seniority for a solid line in MEM.

There is no doubt about it being a toxic work environment but it’s not the worst place either.

On the other hand, you will also find some really good pilots trying to do the right thing and make the best out of the only job they have.

 

[CrownandCoke]

Don't even consider going to Pinchanickle. I don't want to have to say "I told you so", like I told the last guy who didn't listen.

Plus 7 months from now, Pinnacle will be shut down. STFD!

coming to Pinnacle was the biggest mistake of my life.

 

[McNugent]

banging the chick in your avatar could be the biggest mistake of your life too. Got penicillin?

 

[DoinTime]

They will probably shrink drastically in the future but that's only if there is a NW/Delta merger and Mesaba and Compass aquire all the options for the 900 and the 170. Then and only then will they begin to park a large majority of Pinnacle's 200's.

Not defending PCL here because it truly is a miserable place to work but the service agreements in place with both DAL and NWA have guarantees for 140 aircraft. They don't have to fly the airplanes but they cant take them away and they have to pay us our costs plus to have them sit on the ramp and collect dust. The only way that the -200's can leave PCL's fleet is if they get replaced with larger aircraft.

 

[Carl_Spackler]

The junior base right now for CA's is ATL -900. The initial award that just came out has unfilled positions and will probably continue as the base grows.

 

[check6]

Jeez, another one getting into the industry! All we need is more TOOLs. Lovely, Just Lovely!

Surf! Nice can!

 

[gromgutten]

I have no regrets regarding my decision to join Pinnacle. I came there with the expectation to upgrade quickly, get some PIC time and get out. It worked out beautifully, and I met some very nice people during my time there. If you are looking for a career, look elsewhere.
The good thing about flying for a sh!tty regional, is that the decision to leave is easy when something else comes along.

 

[20sx]

so far, the quick upgrades are still continuing. I started lasted september and finished upgrade in March.

 

[SEVEN]

The only way that the -200's can leave PCL's fleet is if they get replaced with larger aircraft.

With a merger anything can happen, service agreement or not. Who knows which regional airlines will be on the chopping block in the next year. It will be at least 2-3 when the dust settles. Mergers are one big cluster.

 

[Smarta$$]

I would tend to think that the superfast upgrades will be ending soon. No one will be able to leave because no place is hiring. A few will leave for foreign airlines or fractionals. But not in the numbers we have been seeing.

Also, NW may choose to reduce our block hours due to high fuel costs. Movement and attrition will slow considerably. Long reserve times, terrible pay, management lies (daily), no contract anytime in the next 2-3 years, CEO one step above mesa's who is actually trying to ruin the company, our airline buying airplanes for a competing(not us) pilot group and an almost all 50 seat fleet.

Sounds like a great opportunity. And I left alot out because I got sick of typing.

 

[Guitar Guy]

i have my appplication ini at mesa lakes and pinnacle, i would do anything to fly the crj!

Maybe you should hold out for the next CRJ class at Lakes and forget about Mesa and Pinnacle...

 

[Papps]

coming to Pinnacle was the biggest mistake of my life.

The biggest mistake of your life is not realizing that 5 other guys have the same avatar as you, and are in the same "Curr position:"

 

[Windsor]

The junior base right now for CA's is ATL -900. The initial award that just came out has unfilled positions and will probably continue as the base grows.

Agreed. ATL will be the junior CA base for a while. Based on the last vacancy, No pilots hired in the last 12 months would have been able to hold anything except ATL.

 

[DoinTime]

With a merger anything can happen, service agreement or not. Who knows which regional airlines will be on the chopping block in the next year. It will be at least 2-3 when the dust settles. Mergers are one big cluster.

***shaking my head in intellectual frustration***

Mergers are not no holds barred grudge matches. All contracts are legally binding on the successor. The only way the service agreement can change (by virtue of the merger) with PCL, ASA, SkyWest, Republic, XJet, and Mesa is if there is a consensual agreement with the respective boards of directors. SEC rules of fiduciary responsibility to share holders prohibit BODs from "giving away the store" so nobody is going to volunteering to give up aircraft.

Mesaba, Compass, and Comair are not protected by these service agreements though because they are wholly owned. Anything can happen there. I would expect to see deals brokered between DAL and their RJ carriers to consolidate operations to streamline costs. Going forward with these oil prices the 50 seaters are going to be marginalized.

I agree that if NWA and DAL merge there will likely be an immediate need to cut an additional 50-100, or so, 50-seaters out of the combined DCI network (in addition to the 35 already coming out of Mesa). We can also expect big cutbacks in mainline capacity and hub closures as well.

 

[Flyer1015]

and hub closures as well.

Better not be closin' DTW!

Or else, I'm a bustin out them 45's and goin loco.

 

[flyboy3]

i would do anything to fly the crj!

can you say TOOOL?!