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F16fixer

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I have been following what I can about Pinnacle lately and they seem to be hiring like mad. Some where around 500-700 pilots this year. Is that because they need them now or just preparing for NWA to give them more flying? I read in the Star Tribune this morning that Pinnacle's growth could be reduced since NWA pilots secured the 77 seats and up airplanes.

Just wondering what the airline analyst bunch on this board thinks about the whole deal.

I am just getting ready to move up to flying twins on my own at my current 135 job, but I don't want to be there forever, so I didn't know if this is still a good time to jump on with Pinnacle or is there hiring ship about to sink fast?
 
F16fixer said:
I am just getting ready to move up to flying twins on my own at my current 135 job, but I don't want to be there forever, so I didn't know if this is still a good time to jump on with Pinnacle or is there hiring ship about to sink fast?

I'd consider another regional airline other than Pinnacle. Call it spidy sense.
 
If you've got the chance to move into some turbine equipment at your 135 company then I'd stay there. If it's all piston, then I'd start putting my resume out to the regionals. If you can get on at Air Whisky, ASA, or some other decent regional then I would recommend going there instead of Pinnacle. If Pinnacle is the only option though, then don't turn it down. Upgrade is probably going to be 5 years, but that's the same at most places now.
 
PCL_128 said:
If you've got the chance to move into some turbine equipment at your 135 company then I'd stay there. If it's all piston, then I'd start putting my resume out to the regionals. If you can get on at Air Whisky, ASA, or some other decent regional then I would recommend going there instead of Pinnacle. If Pinnacle is the only option though, then don't turn it down. Upgrade is probably going to be 5 years, but that's the same at most places now.

Thanks, yeah it's just going to be a chieftain, aerostar and a 414. I live in Southern MN and the wifes job, which is more important than mine, doesn't really allow me to move at this time or for a long while. So I figured I hear that most regionals are crappy and I already will have a 1 hour 15 minute commute to the twin cities why not just try and work there.
Just thought I should get busy and not wait until next year to be at the bottom of a big pile of FO's if all the hiring goes through.

Fixer
 
Oh, in that case then Pinnacle might be your best option. Nothing beats living close to your domicile. I would definitely try for Pinnacle if you only live 1:15 away from MSP.
 
F16Fixr.....Id go for Pinnacle....I waited and waited and logged more time looking for a better path than the regionals. It's now three years and 2000 pic turbineK later and the best i can hope for is a regional airline job. People that i was flight instructing with 5 years ago are now captains on some regionals...one is even a FO for UPS and I am now trying to get on with regional...lost at least three years of seniority....don't think you should do that if you can help it.
 
Rook said:

Okay, I know that was English. What part of it didn't you understand? I told the guy the think about a regional OTHER THAN Pinnacle. Are we crystal? Or is that too metaphoric for you still?
 
If you go there...you will then have expierence and probly go to almost any regional of choice....if you use it as a stepping stone to deciede where you really want to be....but then have to start at the bottom wherever you go....catch 22
 
Go for pinnacle since you only live an hour away from home. It's worth it even for a sub-par regional. What's the likelyhood you'll get MSP as your base?
 
ilkwamh2 said:
Go for pinnacle since you only live an hour away from home. It's worth it even for a sub-par regional. What's the likelyhood you'll get MSP as your base?

I don't know, but I would be willing to stick it out until I did. My first instructor that I had, joined them wanting to be based in MEM, but got stuck in MSP and it only took him about 2-3 months I think.


Thanks for all the replies. I'll let you know what happens as soon as I finish this ATP written and hopefully I'll be able to swing an interview while still working at my current job. I guess that would be the best of both worlds. I don't suppose the boss wants to here me asking for time off to go job searching though! I'll work on that one for now.

Fixer
 
You should be able to get MSP right away. If not, then you should get it within a month or two.
 
It really is not as bad as some people make it seem...I have been here for about a year and a half and mgt does pull some shady stuff but if you can just show up on time it isnt that bad of a place
 
I would go to a regional as well. I thought trying to bypass the regional was an option, doesn't look like it. With over 2000 pic turbine not much luck anywhere else.
 
All the hiring right now is based on attrition. They are losing on average 30 FO's a month. They are quitting and going elsewhere because the FO pay is so bad here.

They are still very short staffed in all seats and cannot catch up with the attrition.
 
FCPhotography said:
All the hiring right now is based on attrition. They are losing on average 30 FO's a month. They are quitting and going elsewhere because the FO pay is so bad here.

They are still very short staffed in all seats and cannot catch up with the attrition.

Thanks for answering one of my original questions. After I factored in commuting costs and hotels, crash pads and all that other stuff, I've come to terms with the pay and will deal with it. It can only get better!
 
Flying Ninja said:
Okay, I know that was English. What part of it didn't you understand? I told the guy the think about a regional OTHER THAN Pinnacle. Are we crystal? Or is that too metaphoric for you still?

I told the guy the think about a regional... Is that the English you're talking about? Nice one Mensa.

Rook
 
Flying Ninja said:
Okay, I know that was English. What part of it didn't you understand? I told the guy the think about a regional OTHER THAN Pinnacle. Are we crystal? Or is that too metaphoric for you still?
Rook said:
I told the guy the think about a regional... Is that the English you're talking about? Nice one Mensa.

Rook

Did you miss the other then? I think he's right, you don't speek the english so good, but excel at tha engrish.
 
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