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Smarta$$

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Well, Once again our management has completely failed to meet the needs of our pilots in negotiations. Not unexpected, but still dissapointing.

I am still trying to fly the safest airplane in the sky.
 
Smarta$$ said:
Well, Once again our management has completely failed to meet the needs of our pilots in negotiations. Not unexpected, but still dissapointing.

I am still trying to fly the safest airplane in the sky.
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Can't say I'm surprised. I hope your fellow pilots are ready to "work to rule."
 
CRJ200pilot said:
why dont you quit...nobody is forcing you to work and it sounds like you are a miserable person....
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CRJ200pilot = PT ??? :laugh:

Dude, is it wrong for someone to want to make their place of employment better? Do you really think that Pinnacle management is negotiating in good faith to give the pilots what they deserver? Is it wrong for Pinnacle pilots to want even a decent contract?

If you said "Yes" to any of the above, then you ARE definitely in management.
 
Starting on 9/1/07, ASA undoubtedly became the safest airline in the world. We had a contract by the 20th.
 
You would think that with DL holding the gun to managements head about the -900 contract, they would have been more agreeable in negotiations.

No fair contract, STFD! I'd rather be out of a job for a few years than sign a $hitty contract.
 
PCL_128 said:
Can't say I'm surprised. I hope your fellow pilots are ready to "work to rule."
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This whole 'losing the 900s' thing has them working like good little soldier boys. Work to Rule? Never.
 
CRJ200pilot said:
why dont you quit...nobody is forcing you to work and it sounds like you are a miserable person....
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obviously a newbie with shiny jet syndrome ready to take it up the a$$ so he can continue to tell everyone he flies a jet ........oooooooooooooohhhh. Which one are you anyway? The one that wears the blades propped up on the top of your head or the one that wears the rayban aviators over your eyes in a dark terminal?
 
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CRJ200pilot said:
why dont you quit...nobody is forcing you to work and it sounds like you are a miserable person....
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And you figured that from a single line post. You are destined for DTW Base Management with your uncanny ability to intuit motive and personality from a forum post, (Unless you have pinked your type ride. If so you have to go to MSP).

Seriously though...

The market has become wise to PNCL. The $3.00 share price indicated lack of faith in the PNCL model. They did OK when NWA fed them a healthy profit margin , to buoy their stock price. The shares you remember were used as capital to fund a retirement debt.

PNCL has been out on its own twice. Colgan, which at best is now a shrinking venture, with large losses and the Delta flying which failed.

PNCL is cash strapped and the inevitable more expensive pilot agreement will be problematic. The one positive result of the above will be the likely cuts to middle management. Clear out that rats nest in Detroit and MSP..costs will reduce and morale will improve.
 
Did you just use morale and Pinnacle in the same sentence?

The funniest post on the boards right now is this one. The same headline could have been posted on here for the last 5 years.

That's not to say that you all don't deserve better. You do. Just that management has made it clear for YEARS that they won't do it. Nothing new here.
 
Any labor group that is serious about a contract will not sign LOA's.

Any labor group that is serious about a contract will not "pick up Open Time", or agree to overtime.

Since this labor group continues to do all of the above - they can live in the never, never land of wishing for a new contract.

Every industry has a bottom - Pinnacle is it in Aviation.
 
Well not quite the bottom, that is firmly held in place by Mesa, with support from Gojets. However, Pinnacle is the mushy stuff on top of the bottom layer of crud.
 
yeah dont feel bad....fracs have a industry bottom too....

NJA
Flex
CS
Avantair
XOjet
flops....

im sure everythin will work out in a few years, it always does.

just stay positive and do the best you can to stay employed.
 
And in the meantime do as much to inflict pain on the company's bottom line as is possible!

Heat em up
Burn baby Burn
Do them no favors, show them no mercy.

Last I checked, APU's, brakes and jet fuel are mighty expensive these days! :D
 
Cokie907 said:
And in the meantime do as much to inflict pain on the company's bottom line as is possible!

Heat em up
Burn baby Burn
Do them no favors, show them no mercy.

Last I checked, APU's, brakes and jet fuel are mighty expensive these days! :D
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I wish. The company has most of the sheep scared for their job. Most pilots just put their skirt back on and are doing the PT dance at double time.
 
gearupflapsup said:
And you figured that from a single line post. You are destined for DTW Base Management with your uncanny ability to intuit motive and personality from a forum post, (Unless you have pinked your type ride. If so you have to go to MSP).
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Beeker got a pinker? I might like to hear some deets on that one.
 

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