Pinnacle info picket at EWR over Q400 etc...

[Striptyler]

The benefits to the Colgan pilot group are significantly more money, better benefits, and established work rules in addition to career progression opportunities and job security.

I doubt anybody at Colgan is worried about shop closing up, Moving to another regional, no matter what change in eqipment or pay is not progression, A Colgan FO makes more than a pinnacle FO does for the first 2 years...(per hour only) I've only met 1 3rd year colgan FO. What happens if Delta buys Northwest? Will the pinnacle flying stay around for long, or will they push it to another DCI carrier?

Q pay sucks. It's been beaten to death. Colgan pilots want to change it...

I guess in the end, just tryin to say, No carrier is perfect. Not gonna bash somebody for going to work at a diffrent airline. Be a lot easier if pilots spent less time trying to brag about their BBD, and more time working together to promote positive, and progressive change. Rather then telling me the Q rates suck, why don't you call manassas for me and tell them what you think?...

 

[vectorvictor]

When can we start the union drive again? I know with the generous pay increases and QOL improvements that it would just be a waste of time; but just for my own curiousity, when could we start again?

 

[PCL_128]

You can't file with the NMB until August, so you could probably start the campaign in a few months. Question is, how many people are still left from the OC? You might have to rebuild the whole thing with fresh people.

 

[dingo222]

New hires at PCL are being awarded CRJ 900 FO positions and CRJ 200 CA positions. The CA seat is 60K a year. Those jobs could have been yours now even if the list was a staple, which it won't be. Why are Colgan pilots so insistent on giving up pay raises and career advancement opportunities?

sorry dude, by why are pcl pilots so insistent on talking to colgan pilots like you are my big brother? Sorry, but crj-900 or rj-200 CA is not an advancement in my career. Sorry, but my little saab will get me where I need to go careerwise just as quick as your rj. THe rest of your post I agree with, by I'm sorta tired of RJ drivers telling me what an "opportunity" it would be.

 

[PCL_128]

For you it might not be an opportunity, but I'm sure there are plenty of other Colgan pilots that would like a chance to bid jet equipment. For them, it would be an opportunity. What's wrong with more choices?

 

[dingo222]

For you it might not be an opportunity, but I'm sure there are plenty of other Colgan pilots that would like a chance to bid jet equipment. For them, it would be an opportunity. What's wrong with more choices?

I have no prob with choices, and I'm sure some ppl would like to bid the jet. MY point is it's not a step up; it's a lateral move.

 

[PCL_128]

I have no prob with choices, and I'm sure some ppl would like to bid the jet. MY point is it's not a step up; it's a lateral move.

I would disagree with that. The CRJ-900 rates are about to be decided by the arbitrator, and I'd bet that the new rate will max out at $90+/hr. The most a Colgan pilot could ever make is $78/hr. For the Colgan lifers, it could be a step up.

 

[Britpilot]

A few years ago I walked in an informational picket line in EWR. I was an Express pilot and we joined in with the Cal pilots to highlight our slow moving contract negotiations. It was a very impressive sight, several hundred pilots walking through the terminal and across the street to the Marriot in uniform. Just about every one in the terminal watched as we walked through and many asked what exactly was going on. Therefore we achieved our goal, we brought our issue to the attention of the traveling public.
It was worth the effort by all of us involved and it certainly made Continental a little unhappy.

 

[TNHillbilly]

I don't mind flying the Saab at all, but I wouldn't mind bidding jet equipment either. In the long run I think one list would be better, but I don't see it happening any time soon.

 

[dingo222]

the unofficial word on the street is pcl pilots won the arbitration over the merged senority list. The may be flying saabs and q's and you flying jets faster than you think.

 

[flynryan15]

the unofficial word on the street is pcl pilots won the arbitration over the merged senority list. The may be flying saabs and q's and you flying jets faster than you think.

What does Chuck Colgan think about you using his picture as your avatar?

 

[dingo222]

What does Chuck Colgan think about you using his picture as your avatar?

I recieve endorsements from him and KFC, finger lickin good

 

[flynryan15]

Nice to see he trimmed the nose hair for the occasion.

 

[TNHillbilly]

the unofficial word on the street is pcl pilots won the arbitration over the merged senority list. The may be flying saabs and q's and you flying jets faster than you think.

Source?

 

[dingo222]

lots o rumint on the pcl side. just rumors. they have a conference call tonight that will give us an answer.

 

[TNHillbilly]

hmmm....well i guess we will see...

 

[dingo222]

false alarm, too much internet speculation, back to the original scheduled bs, already in progress

 

[Fred Rogers]

For you it might not be an opportunity, but I'm sure there are plenty of other Colgan pilots that would like a chance to bid jet equipment. For them, it would be an opportunity. What's wrong with more choices?

Just flying a super shiny jet isn't the opportunity. It's more bases, more schedules, more money in some cases.. etc. Oh, and working under a CONTRACT!!

AWESOME!

I hope all you nay sayers are reading this right now. I remember people saying that this would never happen, that it couldn't happen, that the Colgan's wern't going anywhere, it's two companies all seperate, yadda yadda yadda.

Well, we told you so. (Oh god that felt good.)

You can't look to the past to make decisions about the future, you have to look at the future. Looks like Colgan will be a union shop and I couldn't be happier about it. Looking forward to working together with the PCL folks to actually "Make it better"

(actually I'm still looking forward to getting the hell out, but hey)

 

[Snaab]

Nice to see he trimmed the nose hair for the occasion.

Haha, good one, flynryan!! Each time I see the infomercial for that unwanted hair removal tool, that comes to mind....

So, any word on the supposed conference call last night??

 

[suupah]

Just flying a super shiny jet isn't the opportunity. It's more bases, more schedules, more money in some cases.. etc. Oh, and working under a CONTRACT!!

AWESOME!

I hope all you nay sayers are reading this right now. I remember people saying that this would never happen, that it couldn't happen, that the Colgan's wern't going anywhere, it's two companies all seperate, yadda yadda yadda.

Well, we told you so. (Oh god that felt good.)

You can't look to the past to make decisions about the future, you have to look at the future. Looks like Colgan will be a union shop and I couldn't be happier about it. Looking forward to working together with the PCL folks to actually "Make it better"

(actually I'm still looking forward to getting the hell out, but hey)

lets make it vacant-er