Pinnacle in the next year ?

[JJJ]

o how are the Pinnacle pilots reacting to the inter-company memo regarding no growth beyond the 129 airplanes?

I haven't seen this memo yet. What is your source?

Why would mgmt tell us there will be no more airplanes? That would only gives strength to our barganing position. If there were to no more growth, that woulod be even more reason to hold out for better pay, work rules, benefits, etc. At the very minimum, tell us there is a chance of more airplanes if we sign this or that.

 

[Lear70]

Why would mgmt tell us there will be no more airplanes? That would only gives strength to our barganing position. If there were to no more growth, that woulod be even more reason to hold out for better pay, work rules, benefits, etc. At the very minimum, tell us there is a chance of more airplanes if we sign this or that.

I'm not voting for anything based on the chance of more airplanes. I sincerely hope that the majority of pilots here recognize that even if they gave us a promise in writing for more airplanes, that it does nothing for us or our industry if we sign anything substandard. Our contract is total garbage compared with where the industry is now, and we must not get greedy for growth to the point that it continues to drag down the industry.

One of our recent newsletters detailed:

Our management considers us the most profitable regional in the country.

Our management considers the pilots one of the major contributors to that claim.

The cost of us getting a 50% raise across the board in terms of combined salary and benefit increase is a very small increase in their CASM and woulld not adversely affect their profitability.

There is absolutely no reason to cave to management just for increased growth, when our piece of the pie is small enough to not affect their growth either way. The fight is just beginning, but we all need to commit to a hard line stance now.

 

[JJJ]

All I'm saying is that it would be bad strategy on the companys part to tell us there will be no more airplanes.

Like you, I'm only going to vote on what is printed on the TA, not promises of future growth.

Either way, I think the first TA that comes our way will get approved.

 

[another cfii]

I think if any short-sighted pilots that would vote for growth doesn't understand one word: "Karma". What comes around goes around. Just because you think more jets will mean faster upgrades, and you can sacrifice all other issues, i think it's dead wrong. We need to understand if we set the bar low, whenever we go, we'll have to deal with it for a very long time.

BTW, does anybody know if they can even put a TA out before our contract amendment date starts, i.e. May next year?

 

[Lear70]

Absolutely. A TA could come out for ratification tomorrow if we were at that point. The verbiage in contracts overrides all previous agreements...

 

[DoinTime]

BTW, does anybody know if they can even put a TA out before our contract amendment date starts, i.e. May next year?

Our current contract was signed well in advance of the amendable date of our last contract.