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Kudos to the crew.
"The pilot and the crew did an outstanding job," says Airport Director John Schalliol. "The passengers appreciated that, everything worked out great."

http://www.wndu.com/news/112005/news_46225.php

Posted: 11/29/2005 11:18 am
Last Updated: 11/29/2005 01:14 pm

Story filed by NewsCenter16 Reporter
Robert Borrelli

South Bend, IN - There were tense moments Tuesday morning for passengers and crew on-board a jet bound for Detroit from South Bend.
Engine failure forced the plane to make an emergency landing back at South Bend Regional Airport.

The Northwest Airlink regional jet left South Bend about 8:15 AM.

Soon after they took off, pilots lost the use of the right engine.

Our Skyview 16 camera at South Bend Regional shows the jet coming back to the airport.

Airport fire crews along with firefighters from South Bend and area townships responded.

The aircraft landed safely.

We talked with some of the passengers about what they heard and what they smelled.

"We heard like a fluttering noise or something that sounded like something was wrong with the engine on the right side of the plane," says Passenger Bob Kadlec. "Then, there was actually a pilot on the plane that went up and alerted somebody up front. They shut that (engine) off, (and then) we circled around for awhile and had an actually really good landing."

"We saw the fire trucks when we came down," says Brent Jesiek, another passenger on the Northwest Airlink. "I said, 'Are those for us, Yeah, they must be'! And the landing was fine."

"The pilot and the crew did an outstanding job," says Airport Director John Schalliol. "The passengers appreciated that, everything worked out great."

Three of the 42 passengers we talked with said everyone was pretty calm during the emergency landing.

Passengers were either booked on another flight to Detroit or chose not to continue by air.

The jet was towed to a hangar where technicians will check to see what caused the right engine to fail.

Northwest Airlink is operated by Pinnacle Airlines out of Memphis, TN.

Aircraft background
So, what kind of plane was involved in Tuesday’s emergency landing?

The airline was a Canadair regional jet. It can seat 50 people.

A Northwest Airlink subsidiary called Pinnacle Airlines operates the line. Northwest Airlink is a regional partner of Northwest Airlines.

A spokesperson at Pinnacle tells NewsCenter 16 the company operates 124 planes like the one involved in the emergency landing.
 
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"Then, there was actually a pilot on the plane that went up and alerted somebody up front. They shut that (engine) off, (and then) we circled around for awhile and had an actually really good landing."

I want to be that guy. Getting out of my seat after takeoff to advise the pilots. I want to be that hero.
 
No, be the guy who busts into the cockpit and lands the plane :D after a metoer hits the windshield and takes out both the pilots!
 
acaTerry said:
No, be the guy who busts into the cockpit and lands the plane :D after a metoer hits the windshield and takes out both the pilots!

right, right. That would be a lot cooler!
 
Not a great review....

With Pinnacle's record, this isn't really a great review for them.

What scares me is that a pilot from the back had to tell the pilots up front that there was a problem with the engine.....

I'd want to be the pilot that was up front who recognized and took care of the problem before the guy in the back even noticed.
 
lazy8s said:
With Pinnacle's record, this isn't really a great review for them.

What scares me is that a pilot from the back had to tell the pilots up front that there was a problem with the engine.....

I'd want to be the pilot that was up front who recognized and took care of the problem before the guy in the back even noticed.


Wow...are you stupid. This article was written based on a few comments from probably the three dumbest people on board the aircraft and you accept it like it is a NTSB report. What does that say about you?
 
Don't worry, bro. I'm sure they can spin it somehow saying if the pilots were not riddler, they greased that landing...

Some people out there just can't get admit they took care of the emergency, and landed safety. Job well done!!
 
AHHHHA,
The question must be asked, were they doing the old seat swap thing and kick the right thrust lever by accident? How many times did they say "dude"?
PBR
 
Take a deep breath tough guy....

DoinTime said:
Wow...are you stupid. This article was written based on a few comments from probably the three dumbest people on board the aircraft and you accept it like it is a NTSB report. What does that say about you?

I was refering to the news reoprt. Not an NTSB report, but it was put on TV by a reporter. Of course, the general public knows no difference between the two (NTSB/News reports) and we all know that what's on the news must be fact.

So I say again, not a great review on Pinnacle, in the eyes of the general public that is.

To answer your question, what that says about me is: I can read between the lines and understand things in context. I can't say that much for you.....
 
Probably a good thing

If they hadn't lost the engine, they may have tried to join the "Pinnacle 410 Club" on that flight.
 
Great job to the pinnacle crew: they saved the lives of 50 people. Perhaps the general public will begin to understand why they need two well paid, highly trained, professional flight crews there in case something happens.
 
Well, they got it back in safely, that is a job well done. That is what you guys are (so poorly) paid for.
But try to remember with all the jokes (I hope they are), the other two guys are dead. They paid for their mistake(s). I think that smearing mud all over them is kinda low down. I'd not be suprised to see that there are more guys than those two who did the same type things but somehow got away with it. Let's learn from the mistakes others make instead of pretending that we're so good that we wouldn't make any ourselves huh?

From the soapbox,
Terry
 
Where do you get that from? The news report? How do you know that they weren't already aware of it and had to be alerted? Were they supposed to make an immediate PA about it before they ran their checklists?
 
TinGoose1 said:
I think the point is that the crew had to be notified that they were having engine trouble. End of point.


I guess the stupidest pilot on this message board position is no longer solely occupied by Lazy8. TinGoose is making a run for it.
 
Stupidest? What school did you attend? You must be a 9E pilot if you thought that word made sense. Buy a dictionary and try the insult again.
 
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TinGoose1 said:
Stupidest? What school did you attend? You must be a 9E pilot is you thought that word made sense. Buy a dictionary and try the insult again.

How often do you get to fly your "heavy" C-150 around. I am sure you would like to be the guy sitting in the back of the airplane when the FA anounces...."Ladies and gentleman...both pilots are dead and we need somebody to fly the airplane." You jump up and say...."Have no fear....I have flown a C-150 before"

What a tool.
 
TinGoose1 said:
I think the point is that the crew had to be notified that they were having engine trouble. End of point.

You have no idea that this was actually the case by reading some half-baked press account. If that is even close to what happened, it probably went more like this:

HEROIC PAX (Played by Wesley Snipes): THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT ENGINE! THE RIGHT ONE! DO SOMETHING OR WE WILL ALL DIE!

FA (Played by Jennifer Lopez- She also isn't getting much work these days): Ok, let me tell the pilot... Captian, we have a passenger that is like TOTALLY freaking out about the right engine...

CAPT (Played by Smilin' Paul... Who else?) No sweat! We already are aware of the problem. Prepare the cabin for an emergency landing, no need to brace as it will be a normal landing and make sure they stay seated after landing. I'll say something to the folks and we will be on the ground in five minutes.

FA: OK, but I am still not going out with you.

Obviously I embelleshed for dramatic effect. Chances are the crew was already working the emergency long before our "hero" was doing his thing. Besides, would you shut down an engine only because a passenger said it "sounded funny." I hope not.

Oh yeah. Nice job to the PCL crew.
 
LowlyPropCapt said:
You have no idea that this was actually the case by reading some half-baked press account. If that is even close to what happened, it probably went more like this:

HEROIC PAX (Played by Wesley Snipes): THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT ENGINE! THE RIGHT ONE! DO SOMETHING OR WE WILL ALL DIE!

FA (Played by Jennifer Lopez- She also isn't getting much work these days): Ok, let me tell the pilot... Captian, we have a passenger that is like TOTALLY freaking out about the right engine...

CAPT (Played by Smilin' Paul... Who else?) No sweat! We already are aware of the problem. Prepare the cabin for an emergency landing, no need to brace as it will be a normal landing and make sure they stay seated after landing. I'll say something to the folks and we will be on the ground in five minutes.

FA: OK, but I am still not going out with you.

Obviously I embelleshed for dramatic effect. Chances are the crew was already working the emergency long before our "hero" was doing his thing. Besides, would you shut down an engine only because a passenger said it "sounded funny." I hope not.

Oh yeah. Nice job to the PCL crew.

LOL! Nice LPC.:laugh:

And job well done to the 9E crew in SBN.
 
LowlyPropCapt said:
You have no idea that this was actually the case by reading some half-baked press account. If that is even close to what happened, it probably went more like this:

HEROIC PAX (Played by Wesley Snipes): THERE IS SOMETHING WRONG WITH THAT ENGINE! THE RIGHT ONE! DO SOMETHING OR WE WILL ALL DIE!

FA (Played by Jennifer Lopez- She also isn't getting much work these days): Ok, let me tell the pilot... Captian, we have a passenger that is like TOTALLY freaking out about the right engine...

CAPT (Played by Smilin' Paul... Who else?) No sweat! We already are aware of the problem. Prepare the cabin for an emergency landing, no need to brace as it will be a normal landing and make sure they stay seated after landing. I'll say something to the folks and we will be on the ground in five minutes.

FA: OK, but I am still not going out with you.

Obviously I embelleshed for dramatic effect. Chances are the crew was already working the emergency long before our "hero" was doing his thing. Besides, would you shut down an engine only because a passenger said it "sounded funny." I hope not.

Oh yeah. Nice job to the PCL crew.

I just wanted to say...good luck we're all counting on you.

BTW who is Smiling Paul?
 
I can't believe the ignorance and stupidity of some people on this board. First off, when you have an engine failure, what is the first thing you do, you fly the airplane, which is probably what the pilots were doing as they attempted to figure out the problem. The pilot in the back that came up did what any other pilot would have done, offer his help. I am positive that the pilots knew there was an engine failure, i mean COME ON! The plane looses an engine, they bring it back, and to you people, we still did something wrong. Its almost like you people would have liked it better if they couldn't solve the problem and something bad happened. If this would have happened to SkyWest, southwest, jet blue, this board would have been filled with praise about what a good job they did. I think its time you show this airline some respect and let the 3701 thing rest.
 
DoinTime said:
TinGoose is making a run for it.

I think Gulfstream 200/Tingoose have jointly won the position of most ignorant pilots on this board. These are the kind of people I'd like to see get out of the aviation industry. They are both simply angry, negative crybabies and I would bet those around them get sick of their pessimism.

The 9E crew did a good job.
 
It's really not that uncommon for an engine to begin to disintegrate without giving any initial cockpit indications.

When I was an A&P with UPS we had a 727 come in trailing fire out of the #3 exhaust. I realized when talking to the crew that they had no indication of any problem.

Chunks of blades were found in the saddle ducts that were large enough to read part numbers on them!

I never heard a negative word spoken about the UPS crew!
 
You 9E bashers are something else. Who gives a sh!t how the crew first got an indication that there was a problem. If the airplane systems didn't give them adequate warning, thank God there was a pilot in the back to let them know. What matters is what happened after the crew was aware of the problem. It sounds like we all should study what they did instead of spewing stupidity. Way to go guys.
 
Good Job!

Yep, a crew lands the plane after an engine failure and they are still 'dumb' because the pilot in the back had to inform them. Jealously is reeking out of every ‘pour’ or the keystroke of … need I name the ignorant?

Have you ever heard of the master warning indication?

Well...but, yeah let's just accept the journalist's view based on the passenger view.
And for those of you who are still not 'over' the 410 episode...let me take you back to 1982 and the B737 accident at near DCA. Go ahead read it in detail and then we can all start bashing all the Air Force Fighter jocks who are now flying for the regionals and majors - for those of you too ignorant about anything on this board...the F/O was a F-15 pilot.

Give a break to fine ERAU, UND, and other flight school graduates where most of us weren’t able to afford training. I recently flew with a captain who’s a former Air Force pilot and all he does is belittle those pilots who have made mistakes while flying. One of his comments was: “…that’s why we’re’ better.”

Good job again to the 9E flight crew and god bless the souls of those who died in the 410 accident.

I rest my case.

Bunny
 

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