Pinnacle contract

[ForgedBlade]

I have to add - the contract is lousy - and a typical generic regional contract that sprang up with the magic promise of all the shiny new jets.

I was a new-hire Captain and training took almost three months in mid-'01 - it was a joke. I have since moved on - thankfully - and can say that for the two years I worked there, I was never treated so lousy by a company.

 

[pimpinthesky]

I love reading these posts because it is just comedy. Listening to uninformed people bitch about companies they don't even work for. Why don't you all just stick to bitching about your own pitiful contracts.

Ooppps, sorry, I forgot Pinnacle is the ONLY airline out there that has an outdated contract.

Please.......get informed

 

[othello]

Pimpin

The thing is that these garbage contracts and consessions and this no pay no hotel crap, all gets gets thrown in our face by our managment in there speaches and in our com2. the company's monthly publication.
while we are fighting for a good contract with fair wages that we can support our kids with for the next 5+ years until the majors turn around. Every time some other regional agrees to less that is lowering the bar in the industry. And while we are picketing and doing our best to get a better life for regional FO's. It hurts our stand when Mangment can sit back and say well XP airlinepilots agreed to this and this so that is what we are compeating with.

 

[JJJ]

All of these mgmt tactics are to be expected during contract talks. The company will put out memo's to the other employee groups telling them of the dire circumstances of XX airline, and if the pilots get what they want, we'll all be out of a job. Divide and conquor (sp) is the game they like to play.

In the unlikely event that your MEC agrees to have the same FO pay and no hotel for training on the TA, the only thing you have to do is VOTE NO.

 

[pimpinthesky]

Orthello

Obviously your management has effectivly erroded commorodery within your company by pitting us against you. In all, realize that pinnacle pilots completly support Mesaba pilots come negotiating time as obviously this will have a direct effect upon the future of our next contract. Remember the last info picket, we stood alongside the mesaba boys/girls to. So in the future don't vent your anger towards us-----

 

[GCD]

There's another thread here that the new DO has already been canned. Does anyone know if it is true?

 

[deceptibum]

thanks to those that emailed me the contract. I have heard stories that 95 were the only confirmed orders for Pinnacle. But i've also heard that it is now 103 confirmed orders. Any insight? BTW, from the latest seniority list, how many pilots and planes are there now? Thanks

 

[justmeinmsp]

I think it's in the neighborhood of 660 pilots and 63 aircraft at present. I have still only heard we are confirmed for 95. But I could be wrong as usual.

 

[DTWFO]

I think it is still 95, but I heard a rumor not too long ago from a guy that was up at Bombardier getting a new plane that NWA had informed them it was going to extend it to 120. Obviously this is just a rumor, but coming from Bombardier.....who knows. I love spreading rumors though

 

[deceptibum]

I interviewed there and the recruiting dept had said the same thing. (About the possibility of 120 jets). Stephanie had said that the airline would know by the end of this year what will happen to the extra jets.

 

[deceptibum]

The desired 1200-1300 pilots the company and union claim to be on property would seem to jive more with 120 jets than an overstaffed 95. But who knows these days.

 

[dondk]

The "orginal" order for NWA is/was 129.
Looking at the delivery schedule, NWA is "scheduled" to take deliver of more than 95 by the end of '04 and there are additional deliveries scheduled for '05.

The last "rumor" that I heard out of MEM was mid 4th QTR this year there will be an announcement that we will be taking up to 50 more jet's to complete by '06.

This will dip into the options NWA has on the additional 175 above the hard 129 order.

I agree with everyone else, the 1200-1300 pilot number has been going around by the union and management now for about 2 years. Late last year it was confirmed that 1200-1300 is the target to be on the property by late '04.

Currently we are around 700 on the property or in some form of training. We will have about 70 jet's on the property by the end of June.

 

[hmmm]

Wish we had a crystal ball to predict wether all that will really happen and dictate our upgrades money and line attainable two or three years.