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Pink Slips !!

Archer 3

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Ok..I got a pink slip on my Private Checkride...landings killed me that day for some reason. I havent done the second ride yet. My question is, how do the airlines view the pink slip? I know it is not a good thing any way you look at it but how does it really affect your chances at an airline or a career in aviation anywhere? If the airlines reject anyone with a pink slip I see no reason to go on from here and invest time and a lot of money into something that is not going to happen. Any input would be greatly appreciated.
 

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Don't worry about it, the most important thing is learn from the experience!

You will be fine, a pink slip on your Private is in no way the end of your Aviation Career.

Don't make a habit of getting pink slips though!

Good Luck and Fly Safe!

Falcon Capt.
 

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Nobody is going to care about a failed practical test for the private pilot certificate, unless it was the fifth time in a row. However, you can use the event to your advantage. You'll always be asked about any failed checkrides, and this is a good time to fess up, and then show how you used the experience to better yourself.

Explain why you failed the ride, what you learned from the experience, and what you did to prepare to pass the next ride. Show the event in a positive light.
 

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Everybody has bad days, sorry to hear about yours. Recruitment people also realize that people have bad days. Remember, that failure won't be in bold print at the top of your resume. Chances are the airline would call you for an interview before they ever discovered this. The will probably dig it up as part of their research before you actually interview, and thus it will be fodder for conversation on the big day. When they ask you if you've ever failed a checkride, by all means, give em the straight story. They already know you failed, now they want to know why/what you learned, etc. Better to bust the private than to bust your last 6-month Part 135 check right before your airline interview.

Failing another ride would start to look bad, as it could be construed as a trend.

Disclaimer: I have nothing to do with airline HR. My $.02
 

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Pink Slip

Don't quit now if flying is what you really want to do! A pink slip will not keep you from a career in aviation. The only thing that can hurt your future is you. Anyway, by the time you have enough time to be hired by the airlines, it will be so far back in your history it wont matter too much. You will have taken and passed so many check rides that your private wont matter too much. It may come up in an interview or on an application but just be honest. For corporate aviation it will not cause you any problems at all. Everyone has a blemish somewhere in their past, it's just what you do after that matters. Show them you don't give up and that you can overcome.

If you really want to fly, go study hard and work on whatever you were weak on in your ride, go take it again and pass. You are just getting started, have fun but work hard and you can do whatever you want. Companies want to see determination, now is the time to work on that.

Good luck, and don't forget to enjoy the journey. Most pilot's forget to enjoy the journey, they are too preocupied with the destination!
 

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Busts

Lots of people bust more than one ride during training and to on to successful careers and fulfilling aviation experiences. Just get ready for the recheck and give 'em hell.

Here's a suggestion for a couple of years down the road. When you are ready to apply for the commuters or freight or whatever, order your airman record from the FAA. It costs $10 max, is fully tax-deductable, and you will have the same records others can obtain about you. It will give you a chance to prepare credible answers to interview questions and app questions about failing checkrides and minimize your being sandbagged at an interview.
 

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Don't Worry

I have two pink slips and got hired by one of the finest airlines in the world. It didn't even come up in the interview. And if it does, you just honestly tell them what happened that day, accepting the blame for the mistake, and how you went on with your career without it having a negative affect.

I would much rather fly with a man or woman that admits their mistakes versus one that thinks they walk on water.

Keep flying and welcome to one of the best careers in the world, even with the pink slips and the furloughs.

Humble
 

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We're all human and people do bust checkrides for a variety of reasons. Flying isn't easy and when you get down to thinking of everything that is involved , there is a lot to it.

Get back on the horse and move on. One can learn from every experience. Having an incident/accident or other violation is another story.
 

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Most everyone i know busted their IFR checkride on the first try, me included
 

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Learn From It, But Don't Sweat It!!!

Everything above seems to be right on Target. Make sure you learn from your mistakes because your going to make plenty more along the road. Hopefully they will not be on chekrides though.

I busted my Instrument check ride and really felt bad at the time. All pilots for the most part are perfectionist. We all hate to fail at anything we do in life. You know what, were human. Keep pressing on and what ever you do dont get to wrapped around the axel. Your the MAN (or woman) in charge. Stay Confident and you will do just fine. Someone above said enjoy the ride and I would have to confirm that. Its one heck of a ride full of memorable experiences and some not so memorable. What ever the memory is keep being as honest as you are now and people will respect you in this industry. The only guy that ever walked on this earth that was perfect died for all of us along time ago. Press on Brother.
 

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i dont think the airlines look at failed checkrides as a factor to hire you or not unless there is a pattern of failed checkrides every other year or two over a 5 or 10 year period.. i have failed checkrides before getting my 1st airline job. just keep working hard.. i have heard that if you have more than 1 speeding ticket in 5 yrs that can do you more harm then any failed checkrides. i would try and contact some pilot recruiters from different airlines and ask them what they think?? ..
 

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Thanks to all that replied !! I think you are ALL full of good advice and thanks for letting me know that no one is perfect. I do seem to be perfectionist at most things and I do HATE to fail at ANYTHING I do. If my airspeed is off by 2 or 3 kts I feel I dont have control of the plane and it bugs the hell out of me, same thing with all the other instrument stuff as well. But it seems that I am not alone in this, even though I felt as if I were. This is the first blemish on my record and I sure don't want another. Again, thanks to all that replied to my post...keep up the good work and safe flying to you all.
 

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Perfectionism

I would have liked having you as a student. You and I are on the same page. No one is or can be perfect. However, now's the time to strive for for precise control of airspeed, heading and altitude. It'll serve you later on, no matter what aircraft you fly and how and when you fly them. Precise aircraft control is important when flying advanced equipment. I had to battle many of my students who were convinced that PTS standards were only the best they needed to do and who did not appreciate the importance of precise flying.

I don't mean to sound preachy, but I appreciate how you're striving for high standards. Lots of luck with your flying.
 

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No worries! I busted my PPL too. I busted the oral.

It was my first intro to flying. I didn't know the procedures, I didn't know anything and I counted on my CFI to pull me through it all. I figured it would be like driver's ed or like high school.

I learned a good lesson and now I study very hard for everything. You can't help a bad flight. Everyone has one at one time or another. Also, a lot of people have a busted checkride.
 

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43hrs?

Not to be doom and gloom first off your going to be just fine with a pink slip on your PVT check ride in the long run BUT. My question is do you really have 43hrs? That is very low time It might meet the mins but in my 1000 + hr as a CFI I only had 1 student that was ready to confidently pass his checkride with less than 45-50 hrs most are closer to 55hr. The national average is near 75 hrs for a PVT ticket.
My point is get your instructor to take you out to the shortest narrowest field in your area and go do touch and go's around the patch until it looks big. Or find a nice X-wind or dirt strip and get your confidence as well as your skill leavle above the minimums to pass the Pvt Check ride. Your going to need those abilitys for your Commerical soon, so the better you get be for your Pvt the less you need to learn down the road.

Best of luck and don't be in a hurry, you still need 250 hr to become a Commerical pilot. Othello
 
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