Pilots wearing backpacks??? lets get campy?

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Reason number 417 not to wear a backpack to the jet:

"I wonder if the Morman guys are coming along with us."

 

[BenderGonzales]

I don't agree with Rez on almost ANYTHING.

I think his views on Wal-Mart are absurd. 9 time out of 10 I read his posts and think that he might be unstable.

But this time I'm behind him 100%.

We can not be expected to be treated like professionals and compensated like professionals if we are incapable of CARRYING ourselves like professionals.

That means that give the same attention to detail to the way you LOOK as you do to the way you fly your airplane.

Yes, friends. Backpacks are unprofessional. If you REALLY need that extra storage capacity, most luggage manufacturers make a "gym bag" that matches your luggage and is designed to go over the handle of your rollaboard and clip to the top.

If you were lying on the operating table, the doctor shows up wearing a t-shirt that says, "Beer: Getting White Guys Laid for 200 years", shorts, and sandles... is that ok?

If you're in a courtroom being defended by an attorney who, instead of a suit, wears a wife-beater, sweatpants, and nikes that light-up when he steps... is that ok?

Like it or not, first impressions matter. We operate in a business where a large percentage of our CUSTOMERS are first-time or nervous flyers. They hand over control of their lives to you professional pilots.

REGARDLESS of how good a "stick" you are -- they will snap to judgement of you based on your appearance. They have nothing else to go on.

REGARDLESS of how little you get paid, or how little they paid for their ticket, your obligation to be a professional is not lessened.

Maybe you kids could LEARN a little something from the older guys who are giving you a hard time -- if you would just park the attitude for a little while and LISTEN.

Or don't. And by the time YOUR kids are old enough to go to work for an airline, maybe it will be no more dignified a career than a fry-cook for McDonalds.

 

[Shobra]

If you saw the comair pilot wearing their headset and it bothered YOU why didn't YOU say something to them or pass a note or or ..... instead of just posting it hear and asking that someone do something... aren't YOU someone?

 

[BornAgainPagan]

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We can not be expected to be treated like professionals and compensated like professionals if we are incapable of CARRYING ourselves like professionals.

That means that give the same attention to detail to the way you LOOK as you do to the way you fly your airplane.

Yes, friends. Backpacks are unprofessional. If you REALLY need that extra storage capacity, most luggage manufacturers make a "gym bag" that matches your luggage and is designed to go over the handle of your rollaboard and clip to the top.

If you were lying on the operating table, the doctor shows up wearing a t-shirt that says, "Beer: Getting White Guys Laid for 200 years", shorts, and sandles... is that ok?

If you're in a courtroom being defended by an attorney who, instead of a suit, wears a wife-beater, sweatpants, and nikes that light-up when he steps... is that ok?

Your post is a one big nonsequitur. A backpack is not anything like a physician wearing beer shirts, sandals and shorts or attorneys in wife-beaters, sweatpants, Nikes etc............not even close. It's a bag and the bag is a tool of the trade. What difference does it make if it is slung over your shoulders or strapped to your suitcase?

 

[semperfido]

it is just a trendy thing adopted by the more youthful end of the group...and trends come and go. now what is really dumb looking is a 50something with a backpack and rubber colored bracelet

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Your post is a one big nonsequitur. A backpack is not anything like a physician wearing beer shirts, sandals and shorts or attorneys in wife-beaters, sweatpants, Nikes etc............not even close. It's a bag and the bag is a tool of the trade. What difference does it make if it is slung over your shoulders or strapped to your suitcase?

BAP. Don't use big words like nonsequitur that I have to look up....

How about taking the burden of proof.. You tell us the difference between wearing your luggage or pulling it?

Perhaps BenderGonzolas was stretching the examples too far with the beer T-shirt and wife beater, however it was used to illustrate the point. If you take the time to read this entire thread you will see the argurements against the backpack very effective and quite clear. In addition they support promoting and defending the professional image. The arguements for the backpack are centered towards the convienence of the individual.

Finally, to try and define a back pack as a professional pilots tool of the trade is insulting to every true professional who spends hundreds of dollars on Scott style leather flight cases and Luggage Works type overnight rollerboards instead of a $30 schoolboy backpack.

That dovetails deeper into the issue. The rest of us are working hard and taking the time to polish our shoes, press our shirts, comb our hair and spend the money to get professional gear so when we come to work we can represent the 100,000 Air Line Pilots properly.....

Then along comes someone trying to game the system at everyone elses expenses.....

The backpack is representative of the larger issue....

Respect for yourself and your fellow pilots.

We not me.

 

[dogismycopilot]

The backpack fits headsets, jepps, and an ops manual that says nothing about wearing a backpack or using a flight case while on duty, and almost anything else I can think to throw inside. It works out great for me, check it out. I can also hike on those long overnights!

http://www.kelty.com/Kelty/index.cfm?fuseaction=Packs.ShowProduct&type=Pack&ID=104

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

The backpack ...........works out great for me,

My point........clearly stated.....by you.....




We not me.

 

[spitfire1500]

If I ever see a pilot with a backpack on in our terminal, I'll personally take them aside and stuff him or her inside it!

Ill wear my F'in backpack if I want asshole! You even come near me and Ill shove my fist down your throat!!!

 

[dogismycopilot]

Perhaps the so-called 'professional image' all pilots are supposed to portray is different from company to company. Corporate culture dictatates wide and varying degrees of acceptability in uniform style and the use of other 'accessories.' A BE1900 operator flying into and out of uncontrolled fields in Wyoming or Colorado breeds a certain outdoor-type culture that may be more comfortable sporting the backpack. In fact, the passengers may relate better to such a pilot. Instead of 'look at that pilot's gay hat and flight case' there may be a 'hey, that's the same pack I use. I wonder if they've skied any sweet jumps lately.'

On a similar note, there is never any excuse to wear an unkept or sloppy uniform. That's why God created irons.

-Dog

 

[RampTower]

I have one better !!

I just DH to CVG in the back of an MD80. While reading the paper I looked up to see some jack-off wearing his headsets with boom mike !! I thought I must be mistaken. Clearly I was mistaken and just some guy wearing a Bose noise XL headset. NOPE, a Comair Cpt was wearing his Bose headsets in full uniform in the back of the MD80.
I do nto think the back-pack is that big of a deal if you are hauling books to study from, but this IDIOT was an embarrassment to us all.
Someone needs to tell him to knock it off.

I have even A BETTER one!! I also wear my Bose X while DHing/commuting in the back no matter which aircraft, even if I look like an "idiot" or an embarrassment to others. Apparently you have never worn these headsets so you will never appreciate what it exactly it does. 30 years from now, I'll be the one laughing at types like you when you're wearing you're big clunky hearing aids.

But guess what... WHO THE FK cares??? People that have problems over sh!t like backpacks, headsets, stickers on flightcases, pilot hats, pilots wearing baseball caps while flying, etc have issues themselves if they have the urge to go on a public forum and complain about irrelevant sh!t.

Take a break from your keyboard, get outside a little more, soak up some sun, and try to imagine, 10 years from now, it won't mean sh!t!

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Take a break from your keyboard, get outside a little more, soak up some sun, and try to imagine, 10 years from now, it won't mean sh!t!

Well...again my point....

Pan Am took ownership of thier pilots image. The pilots enjoyed a time when they didn't have to work at thier image.

Now, in today's current environment, no one is taking ownership of the Air Line Pilot image. Not even the pilots!

So if no one cares about the pilot image now.....

try to imagine, 10 years from now, it won't mean sh!t

Persistantly Yours,

Rez

 

[pinkbush]

My god...this is the attitude that kills me....

When my schedule gets better...I'll stop wearing the backpack!

When I get paid more....I'll wear my hat!

When they stop Junior Manning me....I'll wear the Jacket!

What ever happened to just STFU and doing your job the way you signed on to do it?

T-GATES, youve got it. For the rest of you cry babies screaming about your wages. QUIT your JOB!!! You arent needed!! There are plenty of pilots on the back burners that will take your place. There's nothing wrong with looking presentable whether you're a waitress, secretary of state, or a frickin pilot. SOME OF YOU BOTTOMFEEDER PILOTS NEED TO ACT LIKE SOMETHING MORE THAN A POT HEAD SKATER AND REALIZE THAT PEOPLE ENTRUST THIER LIVES TO YOU. Bottom line.....just save your self the embarrasment and quit your job! Airport Janitors look better than some of you jacka$$'s.

 

[say again]

T-GATES, youve got it. For the rest of you cry babies screaming about your wages. QUIT your JOB!!! You arent needed!! There are plenty of pilots on the back burners that will take your place. There's nothing wrong with looking presentable whether you're a waitress, secretary of state, or a frickin pilot. SOME OF YOU BOTTOMFEEDER PILOTS NEED TO ACT LIKE SOMETHING MORE THAN A POT HEAD SKATER AND REALIZE THAT PEOPLE ENTRUST THIER LIVES TO YOU. Bottom line.....just save your self the embarrasment and quit your job! Airport Janitors look better than some of you jacka$$'s.

Sometimes I wear white socks!!!! BTW- I did quit and now allowed to dress like a complete slob!!!

 

[jumppilot03]

I'm not one to resurect old threads, but on CNN this afternoon, they were talking about the possible Delta strike and filming at ATL. They showed a captain and FO walking through the terminal, after the two walked by the camera, they zoomed in on another Delta pilot in the background waiting in line for food wearing a hat, carring a newspaper and WEARING A BACKPACK.
I guess its not just the regional guys/gals.