Pilots using 121.5 as air-to-air

[ATRedneck]

The other night while on a red-eye I overheard two pilots from a part 121 carrier chit-chatting on 121.5 like it was their own cell phone or something.

The captain I was with keyed in and suggested that maybe they were using the wrong frequency, and they had the nerve to reply, "No we're not!" and kept on chatting like two old ladies at a tea parlor.

WTFO?

 

[Hair-on-Fire]

You going to call their mother too?

 

[kevdog]

As long as they say "mayday, mayday" everytime before they talk it's ok.

 

[Sluggo_63]

The other night while on a red-eye I overheard two pilots from a part 121 carrier chit-chatting on 121.5 like it was their own cell phone or something.

The captain I was with keyed in and suggested that maybe they were using the wrong frequency, and they had the nerve to reply, "No we're not!" and kept on chatting like two old ladies at a tea parlor.

WTFO?

Probably not Part 121. Gotta be Navy. When did they get the VHF Navy Common radios installed? 243.0 probably got too congested, so they had to switch to secondary common.

 

[Shrek]

Lighten up Francis......lol

 

[ATRedneck]

Probably not Part 121. Gotta be Navy. When did they get the VHF Navy Common radios installed? 243.0 probably got too congested, so they had to switch to secondary common.

Definitely not Navy. They were using their company callsign and figuring out their rides to the crashpad.

The thing that was really annoying is that I had Comm2 turned up louder than I thought and it woke me up.

 

[ExAF]

Guard Police

Not condoning the flippant use of the emergency freq, but are you one of those "Guard Police" that yell "You're On Guard" every time anybody says something on the frequency? They are more annoying than the original offenders.

 

[Thedude]

Not condoning the flippant use of the emergency freq, but are you one of those "Guard Police" that yell "You're On Guard" every time anybody says something on the frequency? They are more annoying than the original offenders.

Yup, what he said

 

[ATRedneck]

Not condoning the flippant use of the emergency freq, but are you one of those "Guard Police" that yell "You're On Guard" every time anybody says something on the frequency? They are more annoying than the original offenders.

Not at all. I've just never heard somebody carry on a ten-minute conversation on guard when 123.45 is just as easy to tune and more appropriate to use.

 

[FN FAL]

Not at all. I've just never heard somebody carry on a ten-minute conversation on guard when 123.45 is just as easy to tune and more appropriate to use.

123.45 is reserved for a drop zone in texas and test facilities in the Conus.

 

[Flip Conroy]

123.45 is reserved for a drop zone in texas and test facilities in the Conus.

Correct. Which makes it no "more appropriate" than any other non-appropriate frequency, including 121.5.

 

[kevdog]

123.45 is reserved for a drop zone in texas and test facilities in the Conus.

123.45 is used for many things, including oceanic flights and areas without radar.

 

[Deuce130]

Correct. Which makes it no "more appropriate" than any other non-appropriate frequency, including 121.5.

Disagree on that. Interfering with DZ freqs in Texas or test frequencies that may or may not be in use at the time, with hardly anyone listening to it even if it is, is far different than carrying on a conversation on guard. Everyone has to listen to that.

 

[kevdog]

Disagree on that. Interfering with DZ freqs in Texas or test frequencies that may or may not be in use at the time, with hardly anyone listening to it even if it is, is far different than carrying on a conversation on guard. Everyone has to listen to that.

agreed. I'd also be very surprised if that DZ freq is dedicated for the DZ.

 

[Thedude]

I heard the Columbia Air Force issuing contacts orders to an aircraft being intercepted on 121.5 early this month. Then a warning about being shot down. Boy that got my attention

 

[Flip Conroy]

To the "disagreers"...inappropriate frequencies....regardless of if they are in use, or who they are in use by....when used for inappropriate functions or transmissions are inappropriate. Your desire to assign "degrees" of inappropriateness to these uses is just stupid.

But carry on, if you must.

 

[SuperKooter]

Probably Alpa members. They are always the Pinnacle of professionalism.

 

[ivauir]

who are you calling stupid?

To the "disagreers"...inappropriate frequencies....regardless of if they are in use, or who they are in use by....when used for inappropriate functions or transmissions are inappropriate. Your desire to assign "degrees" of inappropriateness to these uses is just stupid.

But carry on, if you must.

Anyone who thinks there is no difference between a frequency dedicated to emergency use and "fingers" does not belong in an airplane.

 

[kingairyahoo]

123.45 is reserved for a drop zone in texas and test facilities in the Conus.

haha...not quite.

123.45 is known all over the US as the "finger frequency" used for everything from passing company info to saying howdy to a fellow yahoo

 

[ATRedneck]

Probably Alpa members. They are always the Pinnacle of professionalism.

FWIW, it wasn't an ALPA carrier. Nor was it an APA or a SWAPA carrier.

 

[Purpledog]

Air Force common. Just get within 300 miles of Columbus AFB and you can hear divert fuels for every a/c, divert airfields, and what's on the menu at the dining hall for lunch. Don't they let you all think for yourselves? Stoking the flames.....

 

[Dizel8]

I heard the Colombian Air Force issuing contacts orders to an aircraft being intercepted on 121.5 early this month.

" This is the Colombian Airforce Hot Air Ballon Interceptor Squad to unidentified Boeing 747, you must call or be fired upon by our Marlin 22."

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Probably not Part 121. Gotta be Navy. When did they get the VHF Navy Common radios installed? 243.0 probably got too congested, so they had to switch to secondary common.

Navy my ass. Everbody knows that guard is "air force common." Ha. See ya at the merge!

 

[Bavarian Chef]

Air Force common. Just get within 300 miles of Columbus AFB and you can hear divert fuels for every a/c, divert airfields, and what's on the menu at the dining hall for lunch. Don't they let you all think for yourselves? Stoking the flames.....

LOL -- you got that right. I love it when they recall every student to the tower the second a cloud crosses over into Mississippi. What about the radio checks that take 5 to 10 minutes every morning?

 

[SkiFishFly]

Navy my ass. Everbody knows that guard is "air force common." Ha. See ya at the merge!

ditto...

 

[Flip Conroy]

Anyone who thinks there is no difference between a frequency dedicated to emergency use and "fingers" does not belong in an airplane.

Anyone who inferred that I said there was "no difference" between the frequencies when all I said was an inappropriate frequency is inappropriate, has no business walking around, let alone in an airplane.

 

[737Longhorn]

FWIW, it wasn't an ALPA carrier. Nor was it an APA or a SWAPA carrier.

Hmmm... lemme guess... they were both landing JFK....?!?!?

 

[ivauir]

Anyone who inferred that I said there was "no difference" between the frequencies when all I said was an inappropriate frequency is inappropriate, has no business walking around, let alone in an airplane.

Which makes it no "more appropriate" than any other non-appropriate frequency.

QED...

 

[ArmadilloJackal]

"What about the radio checks that take 5 to 10 minutes every morning?"

Isn't that the truth. You can hardly make a necessary call on UHF.

 

[AerroMatt]

Doesn't anyone here read their AIM anymore? If someone had, they'd have posted the correct air-to-air multicom frequency of 122.75 by now