Pilots scam Continental in fake divorces

[Erlanger]

http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock News/2342429/

 

[turbodriver]

And???

CAL would have found a way to take their pension before retirement with shady tactics anyway. That's just as criminal and management gets away with it.

Good on them for screwing management (at least trying) before management screwed them......

 

[Tail Gunner Joe]

So... divorces aren't legal in Texas?

 

[Monster Buck]

And???

CAL would have found a way to take their pension before retirement with shady tactics anyway. That's just as criminal and management gets away with it.

Good on them for screwing management (at least trying) before management screwed them......

I agree with turbo...you know damn well the executives will be leaving someday with millions for themselves! Using bk to take our retirements...the execs can go buck themselves!

 

[JohnQ]

And???

CAL would have found a way to take their pension before retirement with shady tactics anyway. That's just as criminal and management gets away with it.

Good on them for screwing management (at least trying) before management screwed them......

These pilots are criminals, pure and simple. We had a somewhat well-known case at DAL very similar to these. What you "enablers" on this message board don't understand is not only did these pilots steal from the company, they also stole from every pilot on the seniority list. I don't mean just in a general "stealing from the company is ultimately from all of us, blah blah blah" but in a DIRECT way. My own pension at DAL (what is left of it) is now going to be about $50 a month less once I retire, for the rest of my life, due to such theft.

But hey, if you think we should willfully adopt the same mindset as thieving mgmt, I hope you feel better.

 

[Colonel Savage]

"So... divorces aren't legal in Texas?"


Well, it was later found that they continued having sex after recieving their lump sums, and that was when the plan began to unravel.

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[ackattacker]

Not only did these pilots steal from the company, they also stole from every pilot on the seniority list.

You don't get it. These pilots were owed that money. It was theirs. They were rightfully worried the company was going to steal it from THEM so they figured a way to make an "early withdrawal". Maybe not legal but they were NOT stealing from the company any more than withdrawing money early from your IRA is stealing from the bank.

 

[venr122]

Its not theirs till they retire...I don't like it either but thats the law, they knew it and broke it. Now they are going to pay for their short sightedness (sp?)

 

[gutshotdraw]

"So... divorces aren't legal in Texas?"


Well, it was later found that they continued having sex after recieving their lump sums, and that was when the plan began to unravel.

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There was probably MORE sex AFTER the divorce than before....imp:

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

WWGD

(What would Glenn do?)




Just askin'

 

[Superpilot92]

At least one of them was over 60 anyway so he should have just retired. I agree its their money but they were trying to get it while they stayed past 60 and mooch of the company a few more years with pilots on the street.

 

[crj567]

Ummmm

What do you expect from a bunch of scabs?

 

[Whine Lover]

This just in:

" Airlines Scam Pilots In Fake Management Scheme "

May 23, 2009 (Houston Debacle News - McScratchy-Tribune Information Services via COMDEX) -

Hundreds, if not thousands, of clowns have invaded the ranks of airline management over the past decade or so and have posed as competent, qualified, individuals capable of running a large corporation.

During this same time period hundreds of millions of dollars in pilot pensions have been stolen ( via the bankruptcy process ) after the poseur clowns drove the companies they had invaded into the dirt.

Many of the clowns escaped with millions of their own intact. In one incident over thirty clowns were seen escaping with their bags of money in a very small car...."



Whateva. Bad Ju-Ju goes both ways.


YKW

 

[coogebeachhotel]

Hahaha

 

[Cardinal]

This scam has screwed legit pilots hard. Guys whose wives are bailing get a judgement against them, ask the CP about it, and are told "you'll be fired." Real nice.

 

[COpilot]

And???

CAL would have found a way to take their pension before retirement with shady tactics anyway. That's just as criminal and management gets away with it.

Good on them for screwing management (at least trying) before management screwed them......

They didn't screw management at all! They screwed each and every one of us who are still in the plan!

They are dirty selfish, cheatin' scumbags, who should be left on the side of the road to rot. They tried to get there money before their rightful time, thereby bypassing everyone else who work within the system fairly.

Repeat they were not "sticking" it to the airline but to ever other pilot in the plan. If some sees these persons, they should be scorned and ridiculed, for the scumbags they are.

 

[samballs]

They didn't screw management at all! They screwed each and every one of us who are still in the plan!

They are dirty selfish, cheatin' scumbags, who should be left on the side of the road to rot. They tried to get there money before their rightful time, thereby bypassing everyone else who work within the system fairly.

Repeat they were not "sticking" it to the airline but to ever other pilot in the plan. If some sees these persons, they should be scorned and ridiculed, for the scumbags they are.

Well that just sums up the definition of senior pilots

 

[turbodriver]

Ok, then.

Let management take your money and run while you get nothing.

I'm convinced more and more that pilots like to learn things the hard way...

 

[Colonel Savage]

"I'm convinced more and more that pilots like to learn things the hard way..."

Turbo, everyone learns things the hard way. Just look at where the country is right now. Pilots (like batteries) are simply included.

 

[Sy-bil]

So someone has legally divorced their wife. She legally receives the pension. They legally remarry.

Sounds legal to me.

There sure are many Halos hanging over some of this threads posters.

 

[Flybywire44]

If you're going to do something like that, you better had do it right...

 

[Poahi]

So someone has legally divorced their wife. She legally receives the pension. They legally remarry.

Sounds legal to me.

There sure are many Halos hanging over some of this threads posters.

For the ethically challenged:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

 

[Sig]

So someone has legally divorced their wife. She legally receives the pension. They legally remarry.

Sounds legal to me.

There sure are many Halos hanging over some of this threads posters.

Hmm.

For the ethically challenged:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fraud

He said "legal" throughout his post.

Turns out, he is right.

Not too long ago, a fierce hag went so far as to have a "marriage ceremony," to cement her relationship with her current beau. It occurred in south Florida.

Trick is, she was receiving alimony. A LARGE piece of cake, as it were.

Since she didn't have an actual wedding, wasn't marrying the shoob she was glommed... and since it went to court...

The judge was forced to agree, she wasn't married to the FNG.

Ethical? No.

Malice aforethought? Surely!

The poor bastard has to continue paying alimony.


Ethical and legal oft never cross..... this is pretty low, and we'll all pay for it, but it is what it is.

 

[viking737]

So if they hadn't remarried afterwards, no problem?

 

[Whine Lover]

"....the pilots and their spouses got paper-only divorces while continuing to live together and concealing the change in their marital status from their children and friends. "


If they had done it right, they would have actually physically split up.

The flaw in their plan was continuing to co-habitate which indicated that the divorce itself was a sham. This proved an intent to commit fraud. The point of a divorce being to separate.

If they were smart they would have:

- Established a separate residence for both husband and wife.

- Established separate bank accounts, phone numbers, mailing addresses etc.

Basically, everything you would actually do in a divorce situation.

Getting remarried after this separation / divorce would then have no bearing on the case. People do get divorced and sometimes subsequently wind up getting married again.

But you can't say "I'm divorcing him ( or her ) ", continue to live as though no divorce ever occured and then proceed to collect a big chunk of change predicated on a divorce that has in reality only taken place on paper.

Geez...If you want to make things THAT obvious, just walk into a bank and rob it.


YKMKR

 

[tomgoodman]

Thickening the plot

So if they hadn't remarried afterwards, no problem?

Or, two of them could have traded and married each other's ex-wife.

 

[SFR]

What pension? I don't get one, this does not bother me. I just hope they get fired and we can recall some people.


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[EMBpilot]

What is so surprising?

How could you trust people who where hired during the strike or crossed a line especially those who crossed in the first few days? Immoral slime all over sudden become moral people? Only in fairy tales.

Scamming the company, second families in every Brazilian destination or picking up open time until you are illegal with furloughs on the street - what's the difference?

 

[Captain X]

If you're going to do something like that, you better had do it right...

You mean like not all use the same lawyer to draft the divorce papers and simple change names?

 

[spitfire1500]

Take the money and run!!!! It won't be there later!!