Pilots hope and wait for Sully's, Colgan accident and unions to enhance their careers

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Unions could close their doors. Stop taking money from workers and stop destroying business and productivity.

Consider watching the NTSB public hearing on the Colgan accident.... you'll get an idea of what management has in mind for workers...

 

[BigMotorToter]

What do you suggest unions do differently? And where does pilot apathy come into play?

Here's one:

ALPA stops representing commuter airlines that don't meet certain safety criteria. Not just FAA mins, but an increased amount defined by ALPA.

This would be a very pubilc move in light of the current events.

The list of non represented airlines would be made very public. People may stop flying said "less than safe" airlines.

Hopefully many of these airlines would then go out of business and the older, more established airlines (like it used to be) would have to grow again to pick up the slack. And along with this growth, so would the better paying pilot jobs.

We would have then gotten rid of less than safe airlines.

Created a way to grow the Major airlines again.

Create more better paying pilot jobs for higher experienced pilots, many of which may have been at these $hitty Co. which helps offset the pain of a lot of job losses at these airlines.

In the long run, the health of our profession will be on it's way to being restored, as well as providing a safer transportation system.

If we can create more, higher paying jobs, then ALPA will more than make up for the due's they will loose by dumping scumbag operators.

 

[Linedriver]

Nothing will happen until this problem becomes an obvious pattern. Until then you may see additional training in the form extra training in the sim for stall recovery, videos or biannual checks for both captains and fo's in an attempt to passify those who are calling for action.

In the end it will all be just lip service to silence the squeaky wheel, unfortunately.

 

[JungleJett]

ALPA starts handpicking who they represent.....and they lose valuable dues, not going to happen.


ALPA just needs to get the message out about what is really happening in the airline industry. I see all the news about how the Colgan pilots killed 50 people because they lied about past failures, slept in the crew room ,had very little experience in certain conditions, did not get trained on such and such....all while the NTSB has YET to release its final determination. Nothing is being done to protect these pilots..NOTHING. It is awful quiet from DC...except for the lynch mob known as congress and the press.

Someone on here once said that ALPA was there to protect the intergrity of the pilots....seems than ran when the heat got turned up. Now, snort some blow or show up to work half in the bag, they got your back.

 

[pianoman]

Unions could close their doors. Stop taking money from workers and stop destroying business and productivity.

yes, all those pesky rules like not having less than 12 days off when I'm already away from home for 3 nights a week. Or negotiating/maintaining jumpseat agreements. I would much rather just have the company pay me whatever they think is fair. And if I refuse a flight for safety reasons, they can just fire me. After all, that plane won't make money sitting on the ground, will it?

Or that stupid aeromedical department I just used last month with an important health/FAA medical question. I should have just called up the Feds!

If we would just quit being so greedy, like wanting health care for the first 6 months of employment, the airlines would make a lot more money and pay us more out of the goodness of their hearts.

 

[Falconjet]

I don't know, bend over and get assraped by a bunch of greedy old geezers with no life who won't retire? Then listen to them tell me to get over it? Yeah, that's about what I'll do.

Send more money (ALPA PAC, hah!) to an organization that actively promotes causes and issues that are detrimental to my career and lifestyle? Yeah, count me in.

Rez, you are a blabbering idiot, and you drive more people away from the union than you could ever imagine. Your buddy PFTboy is no better.

Keep parroting away with your nonsensical rants, you are really doing a fine job.

FJ

 

[Flyby1206]

Sounds good... HOW do we get congress to ask us "what do we need to do to fix this," ??? Do we wait? Do we act?

The media is hot for anything related to brutal working conditions and poor safety at regional carriers right now. How about ALPA making some public statements about the difficulties we face everyday and how we can solve the problems?

Next month the Aviation Subcommittee is holding hearings on the concerns of regional airlines. Here is a list of the members and their website. I expect Prater to be sitting front row at those hearings fighting for changes in the industry.

If ALPA doesn't get on the ball then the pilots WILL take matters into their own hands, as they have already begun to do:

http://www.boston.com/news/nation/articles/2009/05/17/regional_pilots_life_hardly_glamorous/


http://abcnews.go.com/Travel/story?id=7585208