LXApilot
Owes More Than He Makes
- Joined
- Feb 17, 2003
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Sunlitpath,
While I understand and respect your position on pilots flying impaired; I disagree with your approach to this argument. Unfortunately your mild attempt at labeling, generalizing and your comments which are obviously contemptable towards "corporate pilots", I've had to dismiss you as the kind of guy who starts his briefing in flight operations with "I fly by the book..."
The world is grey here, sunlitpath. Choose the path of the professional airmen and have a discussion with another professional; man-to-man. Or option B: make a call to the chief pilots office, play the part of the company man and destroy someones career in the process.
While I do agree that flying in an impaired state is one of the least professional actions this First Officer could take and is indeed deserving of harsh punishment; let the facts be clear... the F/O was the pilot flying on a leg from AUS-DEN and the flight operated normally and safely. The Captain saw nothing in the First Officers flying ability or cockpit behavior that indicated intoxication. Merely a "whiff of something" that smelled like alcohol.
Does that sound like the kind of indications that warrant a call to the CP? I would suggest they are the kind of markers more worthy of a candid talk man-to-man.
And as a former "121 guy" I'm a little ashamed of your generalization of the corporate world. Plenty of the skilled crew in the corporate world were at one point very dedicated -121 crew.
And it wasn't drinking a beer and flying that landed most of them here... it was taking a gamble on a better life where pay, benefits and life/work balance was better than the scheduled air carrier world.
BTW- We don't fly a CJ and I've never flown ricky bobby to taladega. We're in SLC today and go to LGA tomorrow. Hope we don't get frightened by all those "121 operators" acting so professionally and flying so proficiently. Wake up sunlitsky; we're all professionals and we all play by the same rules.
Our company has a .02 alcohol policy- what does your company say?
While I understand and respect your position on pilots flying impaired; I disagree with your approach to this argument. Unfortunately your mild attempt at labeling, generalizing and your comments which are obviously contemptable towards "corporate pilots", I've had to dismiss you as the kind of guy who starts his briefing in flight operations with "I fly by the book..."
The world is grey here, sunlitpath. Choose the path of the professional airmen and have a discussion with another professional; man-to-man. Or option B: make a call to the chief pilots office, play the part of the company man and destroy someones career in the process.
While I do agree that flying in an impaired state is one of the least professional actions this First Officer could take and is indeed deserving of harsh punishment; let the facts be clear... the F/O was the pilot flying on a leg from AUS-DEN and the flight operated normally and safely. The Captain saw nothing in the First Officers flying ability or cockpit behavior that indicated intoxication. Merely a "whiff of something" that smelled like alcohol.
Does that sound like the kind of indications that warrant a call to the CP? I would suggest they are the kind of markers more worthy of a candid talk man-to-man.
And as a former "121 guy" I'm a little ashamed of your generalization of the corporate world. Plenty of the skilled crew in the corporate world were at one point very dedicated -121 crew.
And it wasn't drinking a beer and flying that landed most of them here... it was taking a gamble on a better life where pay, benefits and life/work balance was better than the scheduled air carrier world.
BTW- We don't fly a CJ and I've never flown ricky bobby to taladega. We're in SLC today and go to LGA tomorrow. Hope we don't get frightened by all those "121 operators" acting so professionally and flying so proficiently. Wake up sunlitsky; we're all professionals and we all play by the same rules.
Our company has a .02 alcohol policy- what does your company say?
