Pilot reached snoozing altitude?

[GCD]

Boo,

Maybe because I am in MIA that I got that side of the story. Not that the news media would add to the story a bit.

 

[tittyjet]

GCD:

"The young guy try to sabotage the senior guy evey chance they get."

You need to get a farcking clue, you jackass. Sounds like you had a bad experience and are now making broad generalizations, or, di you get caught doing somehing wrong by a junior guy who wasn't intimidated by your ego??

Edited part:
When I went back and read your (alleged) background, I nearly fell off the sofa.

You were a CP and DO with that kind of farcked-up view -- may God bless the poor pilots who flew for that outfit. I guess you were the guy who always sided with those who were senior, no matter what common sense and rational thinking would dictate.


Out.

 

[hmmm]

Following proper CRM the FO should of woken the Capt. up.

The FO should be fired for not protecting the companies certificate in front of the eyes of the public.

If the FO had a problem and needed help he would not have had the Capt ready to help and in the loop. He did not show proper judgement by not waking him up.

Fire the FO. He was more in the wrong then the Capt.

 

[acaTerry]

DHC8FO,

Thanks for beating me to the punch. I was all set to fire until I saw you replied first. It looks like ACA isn't the only place with such a policy. Fly safe,
Terry

 

[metrodriver]

tittyjet, if you know GCD I think you'll have a little bit different opinion of him.
And just read the last sentence again.

If you decide to scan the overhead panel for a while, just make sure nobody notices and let your other crewmember know. From experience I know that 20 mins can make a HUGE difference.
I suppose this fo knew all about it and should have warned the capt that it was too obvious to the pax. Very important part of CRM (crew rest management)

 

[FlyBigE]

ZZZZZ

If you have Pax onboard then you probably should just pull the curtain or shut the door. Then they will be none the wiser and you won't look like an idiot on National TV.

Metrodriver great definition of CRM.

 

[AJWick]

hey boo,

what happened to your avatar?

dont tell me that you were asked to remove it!

aj

 

[GCD]

Tittyjet,

Obviously, you don't know me or you wouldn't be calling me names, and assuming what my management style is. In fact, I have a pretty loyal following. However, that's not the point.

The point is, I have had several whiny pilots come into my office and complain about other pilots. Captains complaining about first officers, first officers complaining about captains. I've heard it all, but it always amazed me how pilots love to stab each-other in the back and then twist the knife. You see it on this forum.

My whole point to my post was that the FO, in this case, was twisting the knife big time in the CA's back, but everyone was blaming the CA. I believe in an airplane being operated by the whole crew, except for short CRM (Crew Rest Management) breaks. However, I wouldn't expect one of my crewmembers to hang me, or anyone else, out to dry.

Thank you for your input, though. Maybe I can learn from your input on how to better express my thoughts without causing you to call me names.

 

[acaTerry]

CatYaak,
Things must have changed since you flew with the airlines. Everyone still wants the lines to have more hours. But the turns are ridiculous. Try this as an example: IAD-PIT with a 1:05 turn in PIT. Then sit in IAD for 2:40, then a RDU turn with a :50 min turn in RDU and then sit in IAD for almost three hours again and go out for the overnight.
Lines keep getting more and more time wasted. Best line I ever had? Back in 2000 I was a J32 FO with 91 hours flight time, 16 days off. Awesome. But something just went downhill from there. Over at Mesa, I know an ERJ CA who went from 15 off to reserve with 8 off. It
It's a little different these days....