I feel for you man, that really sucks, I am not that far up the list myself. Am I missing something - just wondering why mainline guys who were still on probation got furloughed (then hired by us ) not terminated. Oh, I forgot, that's mainline and who am I to question that, because we don't have families to feed or put a roof over our heads. take care...
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Well it looks like Furloughs are coming at PDT. With 14 A/C being returned this year, I see about 100 pilots furloughed!!! They want us to sell our souls for these RJ's (Mesa Type Contract), and everyone I talked to said hell NO to a 10 Year BS contract.
We make money for Group, even single engine taxi's the last 8 months that has saved millions, and they turn around and smack us! And now Mainline boys want to protect there Parity Plus 1%, GIVE ME A BREAK...... Help us all..
One Nervous PDT Pilot
We make money for Group, even single engine taxi's the last 8 months that has saved millions, and they turn around and smack us! And now Mainline boys want to protect there Parity Plus 1%, GIVE ME A BREAK...... Help us all..
One Nervous PDT Pilot
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I have an idea, since mainline boys want to protect there furloughed pilots. Why don't they ask management if they take a small pay cut, and reduce their they flying by 10hrs a month. That should open some jobs up for the furloughed boys and girls. I mean they are losing a bunch of money! Nope, the mainline guys would eat there young for Full pay till the Last Day.
Here you have 3 WO's that make tons of Cash, and now they want us to take a huge pay cut, Pension, Health, No Min. Day, CX pay etc.
Thats it! I guess my next job will be? "Welcome to Walmart!"
Here you have 3 WO's that make tons of Cash, and now they want us to take a huge pay cut, Pension, Health, No Min. Day, CX pay etc.
Thats it! I guess my next job will be? "Welcome to Walmart!"
Sim66
Every pilot that was furloughed from mainline was off probation. Mainline stopped hiring in the Spring of 2000 because of the UAL deal. The first furloughs occured in the Fall of 2001, hence np termination like here at ALG.
Good luck to you. I'll be terminated in a few months from ALG.
pappy
Every pilot that was furloughed from mainline was off probation. Mainline stopped hiring in the Spring of 2000 because of the UAL deal. The first furloughs occured in the Fall of 2001, hence np termination like here at ALG.
Good luck to you. I'll be terminated in a few months from ALG.
pappy
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Isn't it ironic that Piedmont never furloughed a pilot until this year? USAirways always has treated it's wo'd regionals pretty poorly, especially when it helps their mainline pilots. I don't know why you guys didn't want to join the rjdc fight, but perhaps now you will reconsider. I can't belive it took this long for someone to take ALPA to court for the way it treats one pilot against another. Well, you are a bit late, but welcome to the party.
PS, I used to work for a usair wo, and I wouldn't go back. If you are getting furloughed, you might actually be better off. Good luck to all of you.
PS, I used to work for a usair wo, and I wouldn't go back. If you are getting furloughed, you might actually be better off. Good luck to all of you.
ALG LAYOFF
WELL GUYS, I DON'T THINK IT CAN GET ANY WORSE..... I'VE BEEN FURLOUGHED BY ALLEGHENY IN 1995 THEN BY USAIR IN 12/01,AND TERMINATED BY ALLEGHENY ON 5/06/02. I WORKED FOR ALG 9YRS AND THE FIRST AVALIABLE UPGRADE TOOK 7YRS. ALG, PDT,AND PSA ARE BEING USED AS A PAWN BY USAIR MANAGEMENT. I'M CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. I DON'T THINK I WILL EVER BE CALLED BACK TO USAIR. TIME TO LOOK FOR A NEW CAREER. I WISH THE GUYS AND GALS AT ALG, PDT, AND PSA GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE.
LIFE GOES ON,
CATMAN
WELL GUYS, I DON'T THINK IT CAN GET ANY WORSE..... I'VE BEEN FURLOUGHED BY ALLEGHENY IN 1995 THEN BY USAIR IN 12/01,AND TERMINATED BY ALLEGHENY ON 5/06/02. I WORKED FOR ALG 9YRS AND THE FIRST AVALIABLE UPGRADE TOOK 7YRS. ALG, PDT,AND PSA ARE BEING USED AS A PAWN BY USAIR MANAGEMENT. I'M CAUGHT IN THE MIDDLE. I DON'T THINK I WILL EVER BE CALLED BACK TO USAIR. TIME TO LOOK FOR A NEW CAREER. I WISH THE GUYS AND GALS AT ALG, PDT, AND PSA GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE.
LIFE GOES ON,
CATMAN
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Latest newswire for "U"
Hey guys I reprinted this with the appropriate approvals....
"USAIRWAYS ANNOUNCES NON-STOP SERVICE TO BANKRUPTCY
Arlington, VA. - USAirways Group (U) today announced new non-stop service to
bankruptcy in continuing effort to compete with other airlines flying East
Coast routes.
"We're definitely excited," cited an anonymous USAirways executive, "we feel
with this new nonstop service, our passengers will enjoy a greater flying
experience whether it be with United, Southwest, jetBlue, or even their local
taxi cab companies."
In what is being viewed as an "aggressive move" by Wall Street analysts,
USAirways has announced cancellation of all flights to Florida. "With the
airplanes being constantly full with passengers, our expenses are out of
control." said one USAirways representative. " By canceling all of these
flights, we will save an estimated $42.00 PER DAY by not using as many trash
bags, Attache magazines, and coffee stirrers. We will now begin flying 35
daily nonstop flights from Philadelphia's Terminal B to Philadelphia's
Terminal A. Our first class passengers on board these flights will be given
complimentary wetnaps and seatbelts."
In another surprise move, USAirways announced it will paint a new livery on
each airplane of its fleet within the next 2 years. The traditional
"USAirways American flag" will now be replaced with a "white flag"
symbolizing a total surrender to other airlines. "We also have a design team
working on a paint scheme that will be painted all along our fuselage. It
will be a picture of 40-60 USAirways pilots standing shoulder-to-shoulder in
solidarity...in the unemployment line, which has long been our tradition here
at USAirways."
Brent Davis, a 15 year USAirways pilot, agrees. "I was hired in 1987 and
since then I have seen the bad times and the good one. The bad times, such
as being furloughed 293 times are hard. But the 148 hours of flying that I
have done here since 1987 have been wonderful. I'll never forget that day in
June of 1990 when we actually turned a profit for the entire day...that was
awesome."
USAirways also announced they will shift their strategic focus from business
travelers to deadheading crewmembers. "With 60 to 90 deadheading crewmembers
aboard each aircraft, our 3 or 4 revenue paying passengers will enjoy the
added safety of knowing that if all of the 30 or 40 captains become
incapacitated, there will still be 5 or 10 more on board able to land the
aircraft, provided, of course, that they were not notified via the GTE
touchphone on the back of the cabin seats that they were furloughed while
enroute."
USAirways also will begin service to Chapter 13, with a short layover in
Chapter 11.
Hey guys I reprinted this with the appropriate approvals....
"USAIRWAYS ANNOUNCES NON-STOP SERVICE TO BANKRUPTCY
Arlington, VA. - USAirways Group (U) today announced new non-stop service to
bankruptcy in continuing effort to compete with other airlines flying East
Coast routes.
"We're definitely excited," cited an anonymous USAirways executive, "we feel
with this new nonstop service, our passengers will enjoy a greater flying
experience whether it be with United, Southwest, jetBlue, or even their local
taxi cab companies."
In what is being viewed as an "aggressive move" by Wall Street analysts,
USAirways has announced cancellation of all flights to Florida. "With the
airplanes being constantly full with passengers, our expenses are out of
control." said one USAirways representative. " By canceling all of these
flights, we will save an estimated $42.00 PER DAY by not using as many trash
bags, Attache magazines, and coffee stirrers. We will now begin flying 35
daily nonstop flights from Philadelphia's Terminal B to Philadelphia's
Terminal A. Our first class passengers on board these flights will be given
complimentary wetnaps and seatbelts."
In another surprise move, USAirways announced it will paint a new livery on
each airplane of its fleet within the next 2 years. The traditional
"USAirways American flag" will now be replaced with a "white flag"
symbolizing a total surrender to other airlines. "We also have a design team
working on a paint scheme that will be painted all along our fuselage. It
will be a picture of 40-60 USAirways pilots standing shoulder-to-shoulder in
solidarity...in the unemployment line, which has long been our tradition here
at USAirways."
Brent Davis, a 15 year USAirways pilot, agrees. "I was hired in 1987 and
since then I have seen the bad times and the good one. The bad times, such
as being furloughed 293 times are hard. But the 148 hours of flying that I
have done here since 1987 have been wonderful. I'll never forget that day in
June of 1990 when we actually turned a profit for the entire day...that was
awesome."
USAirways also announced they will shift their strategic focus from business
travelers to deadheading crewmembers. "With 60 to 90 deadheading crewmembers
aboard each aircraft, our 3 or 4 revenue paying passengers will enjoy the
added safety of knowing that if all of the 30 or 40 captains become
incapacitated, there will still be 5 or 10 more on board able to land the
aircraft, provided, of course, that they were not notified via the GTE
touchphone on the back of the cabin seats that they were furloughed while
enroute."
USAirways also will begin service to Chapter 13, with a short layover in
Chapter 11.
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More "U" news
USAIRWAYS FURLOUGHS 4,000 PASSENGERS
A P Newswire - When Ed and Francine McPherson showed up New York's LaGuardia Airport yesterday, they were expecting to board USAirways Flight 377 and fly to Orlando to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary. Instead, they received furlough notices when trying to obtain boarding passes. "Its dissheartening," said Ed. "I don't see why USAirways is doing this."
One USAirways respresentative, Gary Williams, who wished to remain anonymous, sees it as a necessary cutback. "With our company in such dire straights, it is important that we furlough as many people as possible. We have further plans on furloughing pilots who are already furloughed, as well as furloughing their children, too. Currently we are sending out furlough notices to all vending machines located in our crew rooms."
When asked if plans are on the horizon to "seek revenue by cutting out unprofitable routes, increasing service to profitable cities, increasing customer service, and seeking growth by aggressively pursueing new customers in new market cities.", Williams responded by saying, " That doesn't work here. Show me one airline where that works." After being shown "several
hundred" domestic and international airlines where that works Williams replied by saying, "Hey! Look over there!" shortly before running away.
But all is not lost for the furloughed passengers. Currently, USAirways passengers are offering USAirways Express passengers a "Jets for Seats" program. If USAirways Express passengers give up their seats "temporarily", they will be given the possibility of riding in RJ seats in the near future. All of the USAirways passengers will then be given "must-ride" status
immediately, while all USAirways Express Passengers will be given "standby" tickets. Those standby tickets, which normally cost $100 a piece, will now cost $300 for the Express passengers. In addition, all Express passengers will give up part of their retirement while the Mainline passengers will return to flying, thus funding their retirement with Express seats.
"This is a great deal for the Express passengers, " said furloughed passenger McPherson while blinking his left eye and holding up his crossed fingers.
USAIRWAYS FURLOUGHS 4,000 PASSENGERS
A P Newswire - When Ed and Francine McPherson showed up New York's LaGuardia Airport yesterday, they were expecting to board USAirways Flight 377 and fly to Orlando to celebrate their 25th wedding anniversary. Instead, they received furlough notices when trying to obtain boarding passes. "Its dissheartening," said Ed. "I don't see why USAirways is doing this."
One USAirways respresentative, Gary Williams, who wished to remain anonymous, sees it as a necessary cutback. "With our company in such dire straights, it is important that we furlough as many people as possible. We have further plans on furloughing pilots who are already furloughed, as well as furloughing their children, too. Currently we are sending out furlough notices to all vending machines located in our crew rooms."
When asked if plans are on the horizon to "seek revenue by cutting out unprofitable routes, increasing service to profitable cities, increasing customer service, and seeking growth by aggressively pursueing new customers in new market cities.", Williams responded by saying, " That doesn't work here. Show me one airline where that works." After being shown "several
hundred" domestic and international airlines where that works Williams replied by saying, "Hey! Look over there!" shortly before running away.
But all is not lost for the furloughed passengers. Currently, USAirways passengers are offering USAirways Express passengers a "Jets for Seats" program. If USAirways Express passengers give up their seats "temporarily", they will be given the possibility of riding in RJ seats in the near future. All of the USAirways passengers will then be given "must-ride" status
immediately, while all USAirways Express Passengers will be given "standby" tickets. Those standby tickets, which normally cost $100 a piece, will now cost $300 for the Express passengers. In addition, all Express passengers will give up part of their retirement while the Mainline passengers will return to flying, thus funding their retirement with Express seats.
"This is a great deal for the Express passengers, " said furloughed passenger McPherson while blinking his left eye and holding up his crossed fingers.
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