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JDE

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Here's the mission:

Required:
1. Good high/hot performance - (ie ABQ in the middle of August, and still have some range)
2. Decent Range - farthest leg would occasionally be no more than 1850 nm
3. APU
4. Lav

Would be nice:
1. Stand-up cabin
2. Plenty of baggage

Ok, so here are the options:

A: 1 Sovereign & either 1 Excel, CJ2, or Bravo/Ultra
B: 2 XLS'
C: 2 800XP's
D: 2 LJ45XR's
E: 1 DA50EX & 1 DA10 (company already has DA10)
F: 1 Citation X & 1 DA10

What is your choice and why?
 
What (if any) is the budget?

I would look at the FA-50EX and FA-10 combo.

1: It is a known product line to you for reasons of support.
2: Both built like tanks and will do what you need.
3: Lower acquisition costs. (only buying one jet)
4: What is the most reliable? Probably the Falcons.

If no budget..........why not a pair of G-350's

I would also look at the CL-300. Not for sure how it does high and hot, but looks like a nice bird. Only problem is Bombardier support sucks.
 
JDE said:
Here's the mission:

Required:
1. Good high/hot performance - (ie ABQ in the middle of August, and still have some range)
2. Decent Range - farthest leg would occasionally be no more than 1850 nm
3. APU
4. Lav

Would be nice:
1. Stand-up cabin
2. Plenty of baggage

Ok, so here are the options:

A: 1 Sovereign & either 1 Excel, CJ2, or Bravo/Ultra
B: 2 XLS'
C: 2 800XP's
D: 2 LJ45XR's
E: 1 DA50EX & 1 DA10 (company already has DA10)
F: 1 Citation X & 1 DA10

What is your choice and why?


2 X Gulfstream G150

$27 million for two

17'8" L x 5'9" H x 5'9" W Cabin

80 cu. ft. Baggage Capacity

M 0.85 Mmo

2400 nm range @ M 0.80

2700 nm range @ M 0.75

26,000 lb. Max T/O Wt.

21.700 lb. Max LDG Wt.

15,100 lb. Spec Operating Wt.

2,400 lb Max Payload

10,250 lb. Max Fuel

800 lb Max Payload / Full Fuel

FL410 Initial Altitude

FL450 Max Altitude

$1,112 DOC

5,830 ft. T/O Dist. SL, ISA, MTOW

3,450 ft. LDG Dist. SL, ISA, MLW

Gulfstream Support to include Airborne Product Support


GV
 
JDE said:
Here's the mission:

Required:
1. Good high/hot performance - (ie ABQ in the middle of August, and still have some range)
2. Decent Range - farthest leg would occasionally be no more than 1850 nm
3. APU
4. Lav

Would be nice:
1. Stand-up cabin
2. Plenty of baggage

Ok, so here are the options:

A: 1 Sovereign & either 1 Excel, CJ2, or Bravo/Ultra
B: 2 XLS'
C: 2 800XP's
D: 2 LJ45XR's
E: 1 DA50EX & 1 DA10 (company already has DA10)
F: 1 Citation X & 1 DA10

What is your choice and why?

Choice E...

You already have a Falcon 10, the Falcon 50EX would be an excellent addition. The Falcon 50EX gives you plenty of range, excellent hot/high performance, great runway performance and flies like a dream.

On a 30°C day out of KABQ, the Falcon 50EX can carry 8 passengers and 400 lbs of bags nearly 6 hours and still have IFR reserves.
 
GVFlyer said:
2 X Gulfstream G150

$27 million for two

17'8" L x 5'9" H x 5'9" W Cabin

80 cu. ft. Baggage Capacity

M 0.85 Mmo

2400 nm range @ M 0.80

2700 nm range @ M 0.75

26,000 lb. Max T/O Wt.

21.700 lb. Max LDG Wt.

15,100 lb. Spec Operating Wt.

2,400 lb Max Payload

10,250 lb. Max Fuel

800 lb Max Payload / Full Fuel

FL410 Initial Altitude

FL450 Max Altitude

$1,112 DOC

5,830 ft. T/O Dist. SL, ISA, MTOW

3,450 ft. LDG Dist. SL, ISA, MLW

Gulfstream Support to include Airborne Product Support


GV

Nice to see you touting the company line ;) :)

Yep, Gulfstream knows how to build 'em. I really like how they made boots silver!
 
JDE said:
Here's the mission:

Required:
1. Good high/hot performance - (ie ABQ in the middle of August, and still have some range)
2. Decent Range - farthest leg would occasionally be no more than 1850 nm
3. APU
4. Lav

Would be nice:
1. Stand-up cabin
2. Plenty of baggage

Ok, so here are the options:

A: 1 Sovereign & either 1 Excel, CJ2, or Bravo/Ultra
B: 2 XLS'
C: 2 800XP's
D: 2 LJ45XR's
E: 1 DA50EX & 1 DA10 (company already has DA10)
F: 1 Citation X & 1 DA10

What is your choice and why?
Without a doubt go with the Falcon 50EX. Trust me on this one.

From what you have put on your wish list nothing can come close to what the 50EX can give you.

That will be $30,000 in consulting fees. PM me for my contact info and I will give you all the payment information. Certified checks only please. :D
 
Dangerkitty said:
Certified checks only please. :D


No, no, no! At this level, you have them wire it to your account in the Isle of Man. (That will impress the crap outta them. ;) ) TC
 
JDE said:
Here's the mission:

Required:
1. Good high/hot performance - (ie ABQ in the middle of August, and still have some range)
2. Decent Range - farthest leg would occasionally be no more than 1850 nm
3. APU
4. Lav

Would be nice:
1. Stand-up cabin
2. Plenty of baggage

Ok, so here are the options:

A: 1 Sovereign & either 1 Excel, CJ2, or Bravo/Ultra
B: 2 XLS'
C: 2 800XP's
D: 2 LJ45XR's
E: 1 DA50EX & 1 DA10 (company already has DA10)
F: 1 Citation X & 1 DA10

What is your choice and why?


alright...I think all your choices are kind of lame, but ya gotta go with the DA50EX.

Falcons - they will rarely WOW you, but will rarely let you down.

avoid any psuedo-Israeli-Gulfpuke hybrid :smash:
 
I think I responed first...............what about my consulting fees!?!?!?!

As a former IAI product driver.............they are great aircraft. The SPX/G-150 is the Hebrew Hotrod. But at those altitudes, temps and distances you need to go it'll be a pig. 5,830' required at MTOW @ S.L.! They need more push behind the G-150. Didn't think it could get much worse than the Westpig for runway numbers, but I was wrong. Not the first time and won't be the last.

I stand by my pick of choice E!

Unless you can afford the larger variant of Gulfstream!
 

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