Pft?

[38tango]

From my personal knowledge of TAB, I wouldn't give that company a dime. If your friends want a cheaper, better, and more solid experience, tell them to instruct. Being a CFI is always the best way.

TAB is a ripoff. Just wait until you try to explain logging SIC in a single pilot aircraft...no matter what those used car salesmen claim you can log it as in the ad, you're nothing but ballast...and any competent interviewer/recruiter will call BS on you...making your money well wasted. Besides...4 years of that sh!t and you'd never wanna fly again.

Becky, we got our CFIs together...lotta good that did us....not! stupid towel heads

 

[The_Russian]

WHORE!!!!!

I smeeeeellllll something stinky!

 

[38tango]

The only thing you smell, Becky, is the odor of the hot section melting on number two....again!!!

 

[RUNNINHORN]

what does PFT mean?

 

[ShyFlyGuy]

what does PFT mean?

Pay For Training. It is used for those people who pay an airline (or flight school) to get a job, rather than working for it and then having the airline pay for the training (and hopefully your time as well).

Two examples:
Gulfstream charges $30,000 for a "first officer" to join the airline, go through indoc, systems, and simulator training, as well as fly 250 hours in the right seat of a Beach 1900. The percieved perk is that you don't have to get your CFI and "waste" your time teaching other people to fly.

On the other hand, most airlines are hiring qualified individuals with 600 total and 100 multi and pay for the training, hotel (usually), and even for your time (usually). Right now, an example of an airline that is paying for training, but not the hotel and daily pay is ExpressJet. An example of an airline paying for it all is Colgan; hotel (SpringHill Suites), and daily ($50/day).

If you're curious about the impression people have of Gulfstream, try the search feature near the top of the page. In most areas, flight instructors are in great demand and actually make quite a bit more than first-year pay at the regional airlines. Good luck.

Shy

 

[bobbysamd]

P-f-t

Gulfstream charges $30,000 for a "first officer" to join the airline, go through indoc, systems, and simulator training, as well as fly 250 hours in the right seat of a Beach 1900. The percieved perk is that you don't have to get your CFI and "waste" your time teaching other people to fly.

Don't forget about the 250 hours of so-called Part 121 "experience" gained from the 1900's right seat. This intent of this "experience" is to vault you past the masses into a job with Gulfstream or some other regional.

The problem with this scheme is two-fold. 1) There are no guarantees of hire after you fly off the 250, at Gulfstream or elsewhere, which means that if your other totals are deficient you will have to up them another way to qualify for the regionals, perhaps by instructing. So much for circumventing flight instructing. In the meantime, your 250 hours of 121 are growing stale by the day. 2) A great many pilots who worked hard to achieve their goals dislike those who try to end-run they system via P-F-T. One might encounter them at the pilot interview board. They may well blackball you. So much for the 250 hours of 121 time vaulting you past the "masses." In the meantime, you or whoever funded your P-F-T tuition are out the money.

what does PFT mean?

All your questions will be answered thoroughly if you run a board search of P-F-T. Search "P-F-T" and "Gulfstream" for abundant discussion of both.

 

[Vavso]

I heard of....

a guy who is in TAB flying right seat in a 1900 with only His private pilots license he is paying big bucks sounds smelly to say the least Vavso

 

[Snakum]

Ain't nuttin for free in this world that is worth anything.

True dat, yo!



And remember you folks that are going to do the hiring one day (I know one of you already is, but for the rest) ...

PFT on resume = No hire ... no excuses!​

This has been a public service announcement from the Society for Healthy, Intelligent Training. Remember us? We da S.H.I.T.


Captain Minhberg
Corporate Rental Skyhawk Captain

 

[bobbysamd]

a guy who is in TAB flying right seat in a 1900 with only His private pilots license . . . .

Undoubtedly it's our little friend from a year ago, TABExpress F/O!

 

[BEECH BUM]

Tab Express

Just out of a meeting at Tab Express. All flights have been stopped, and all but six people fired.