PFT me. I need 25,000

[B190Captain]

Nope, I say within the last month and a half or so.

 

[T-Gates]

I met quite a few Colgan F/O's at FSI LaGuardia.... No more PFT. I believe that goes for the Beech as well as the Saab.

 

[ILStoMinimums]

I met quite a few Colgan F/O's at FSI LaGuardia.... No more PFT. I believe that goes for the Beech as well as the Saab.

Was this something management elected to do?

 

[T-Gates]

I guess Colgan blew thier training budget for 2003 and still needed pilots. I guess we will see how far they get in 2004 before they go back...

 

[duksrule]

For all of the Anti-PFT guys who swear they will never allow someone who PFTed to get hired, how do you know if they PFTed before the interview? An example is like stated above Colgan was PFT and now isn't. So do all of the guys that get hired to fly there now have to worry about the PFT stigma that may be attached to the place they are legitimately working for? It would suck to get a job there and then later on be apply somewhere else and be persecuted because someone thinks you PFTed when you really didn't.

I guess the real question is how do you know someone PFTed unless the tell you? Is it in their logbook? A magic PFT database that only interview boards and CPs have access to?

 

[bobbysamd]

P-F-T evidence

I guess the real question is how do you know someone PFTed unless the tell you? Is it in their logbook?

It would be easy to tell a P-F-Ter. Early turbine SIC time in the logbook would be a sure giveaway. The obvious giveaway would be the person's application form and/or resume. Or simply ask during the interview. Employment history is fair game during an interview.

 

[pilotyip]

Early Turbin SIC not true

We have pilot working for us, 1700TT, 1300 MEL, about 1100 SIC in SA-227, it was a real non-PFT job, so there are exceptions to your to above stated "obvious giveaway"

 

[duksrule]

That is what I was talking about. He may be legit but some A$$hat that thinks he P-F-T-ed will try to screw him over one day.

 

[bobbysamd]

Doubtful early turbine SIC, and how to determine its origin

We have pilot working for us, 1700TT, 1300 MEL, about 1100 SIC in SA-227, it was a real non-PFT job, so there are exceptions to your to above stated "obvious giveaway"

There are exceptions to every rule, Yip.

Originally posted by duksrule
That is what I was talking about. He may be legit but some A$$hat that thinks he P-F-T-ed will try to screw him over one day.

Tough problem. How do we solve it?

Originally posted by bobbysamd
imply ask during the interview. Employment history is fair game during an interview.

Now, wouldn't that be the simplest way to clear up that issue? Glad I thought of it.

 

[T-Gates]

Re: Doubtful early turbine SIC, and how to determine its origin

There are exceptions to every rule, Yip.

Sounds like it isn't a rule, merley an observation.

There are quite a few more very lucky people that nabbed SIC jobs with low total time. That I know of...

 

[bobbysamd]

Rule exceptions

There are quite a few more very lucky people that nabbed SIC jobs with low total time. That I know of...

Lucky is the operative word. More power to you if you can get them without paying for them. However, for most of the masses, their first jobs are as flight instructors. Nothing wrong with that, of course, except for the "disappointment" some have after being led to believe they would be hired to fly SR-71s at 250 hours.

There is ample competition for CFI jobs; the competition for non-instructing jobs for 250-hour pilots has always been off the charts.

 

[FN FAL]

You guys are giving me a great idea for making money and paying off a king air. I'll have to run a king air training school and charge like 90 grand, then when the school is over with, I'll hire back the best candidates at 5 bucks a load to fly jumpers in my plane on the weekends. I could run the course all winter, fly jumpers in the summer.

 

[bobbysamd]

It's a terrific idea . . . .

You guys are giving me a great idea for making money and paying off a king air. I'll have to run a king air training school and charge like 90 grand, then when the school is over with, I'll hire back the best candidates at 5 bucks a load to fly jumpers in my plane on the weekends. I could run the course all winter, fly jumpers in the summer.

You could call yourself an "airline" and offer to fly pax around at $79 a pop. Your students could range in age from 20 to 50. You could base your operation near Daytona Beach. Your pilots would be different than other airline crews because you would require them to wear their hats in the KingAir cockpits

I have the perfect name for your school. TAB Express. Nahhhh, it's been thought of already.