People over 25 should be dead

[Foobar]

I'm running for office.

The next big change would be free trade with rouge nations. Cuba, North Korea, China and all those nasty places will be able to freely receive US goods and trade. The way to destroy those regimes is with our culture.

I believe if we’d like to see the communist structures fall in Cuba and Korea just as they fell in Eastern Europe, the way to do that is open up trade. Feed the people, let the money start to flow in and eventually the information that comes with a free society will follow. Those rouge regimes will benefit in the short term, but as the people become less impoverished and better educated those states will loose their power.

 

[Ty Webb]

Exactly right. Just like what we have recently done with Vietnam. When all these consumer items flood the marketplace in Cuba, they will turn to Castro and say, "Why can we not afford to buy these things that the rest of the world has?". . . . and let him try to explain how good they have it under Communism.

The problem is that politicians are afraid of pissing off the very vocal Cuban expatriate community in S. Florida, who are afraid that if we lift the embargo, they will miss out on the money to be made down there when it opens up.

 

[Snakum]

Ty hit the nail on the head with Cuba. We don't need to send the 82nd Airborne ... just McDonalds and Pepsi. The rest will take care of itself in time.

Minh

 

[sky37d]

I vote for flat rate taxes, no subsidies, no NAFTA, and georgyforgov.com, except I'm not in california, oh, and I especially like freebies, no matter what they are, and a job, so I can go flying.

 

[Riddle momma]

Back to the subject

You know what's funny, the way life was in the US growing up in the 50s 60s and 70s is exactly the way life is growing up in the present times in South America.
I grew up in the 80s and 90s down there and I dreamt of videogames, but never got one. I settled for making kites and flying them at the park, grabbing cardboard boxes and turning them into bases for a street baseball game which we played with a broomstick and tennis balls. My aut would set up contests for my friends and the prizes would be to drive in the back of my grandpas Willie. If I ever raised my voice, it was a slap in the face. If I didn't get good grades it was a couple of slaps on the butt. I hated going to church, but my parents had me in a Catholic school so I had no choice.
Life was tough at times, violence was an everyday occurence you just learned to brush off. There are no lawsuits. There is no real drinking age. Law enforcement is left for the big issues, not the ticketing of a junior high schooler not wearing a helmet (I got one in California).
Sometimes I wonder if all this freedom in the US is all just an illusion. Nobody considers the South American countries true preachers of life and liberty for all, but I had never heard of a lawsuit from a woman that was burn by coffe until I got here.

Riddle momma

 

[dmspilot00]

Re: I think. . . .

I agree with that one, but there is no way a rollback to the old system will happen.

How about getting rid of NAFTA ?

Why on earth would you want to do such things? Reregulate airlines? Are you out of your mind? And I'm not going to even touch free trade, since it's an aviation forum.

 

[VFR on Top]

25?! Dang......everybody got until 30 in Logan's Run.

 

[TonyC]

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the street lights came on.

You had STREET LIGHTS?!?!? I'm jealous.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Originally posted by flywithastick
We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were back when the street lights came on.

I was a nine year old boy growing up in Coral Springs, Florida when Adam Walsh's head was found in a drainage canal. He'd been kidnapped not very far from where I lived. I remember it because before that day, my friends and I could pretty much play where and when we wanted to. Not after that!

As far as "People Over Twenty-Five Should be Dead" goes, it's something I've been thinking about a lot lately, raising an 18-month old and a 5-month old. There are things my mother and father used to do with us all the time that our pediatrician today tells us are sure death! When I was an infant, my mom would give me a bottle of straight drinking water a couple times a day...in addition to formula, of course. Now the doctors are telling us that giving a baby water is bad...could damage their kidneys.



Even my wife falls into the trap sometimes. She said we'd have a rough time taking our oldest on a particular trip because the beds in the hotels don't have guard rails. Huh? They didn't have them when I was a kid, either. But I travelled with my parents a lot, and I somehow survived.

The part that really amazes me is this argument that if you spank your child, he'll grow up to be a serial killer or some other form of low-life. "Spanking teaches children that violence is acceptable." That's funny: spanking taught me not to disobey my parents!

We'll see, I guess. I'll take everything I said back if my sons grow up to be murderers or...God help them...airline pilots.

 

[VivaZapata]

"Oh how I lament the passing of the wholesome times of the days of yore" "kids these days" "Youth is wasted on the young" "Baseball, apple pie, and Chevrolet" "Mayberry is where it's at" " Smacking our wives around was easier" "Movies were better" "Music was music" "More folks went to church" "I had to walk to school, in a snow drift, past hibernating grizzly bears, uphill both ways." "People had a better sense of morality" blah blah blah blah. Take off the rose colored glasses.

I tell ya what, you can go back to the past (let's say the 50's) under one condition; that you're a black woman and you live in Tupelo Mississippi. Write us and tell us how good you have it.

LEARN from the past (good AS WELL as bad) Don't embellish it, don't live in it.

The best time is now.

 

[Timebuilder]

Sounds like you were raised by conservatives, Typhoon, and lucky for you! I suspect you will become a conservative as you see your child grow.

In advance: welcome to the club.

 

[Timebuilder]

I tell ya what, you can go back to the past (let's say the 50's) under one condition; that you're a black woman and you live in Tupelo Mississippi. Write us and tell us how good you have it.

Let's see. I'd be a hard working, God fearing, welfare shunning conservative, wouldn't I?

Furthermore, very soon, some Republicans would force passage of the Civil Rights Act, over the protests of Southern Democrats.

Sure. If you can arrange it, I'll take it. Maybe I can sit next to Condoleeza Rice in school, and become a black female conservative leader when Connie is elected as the first black female president.


In all seriousness, your comment is racist at its core, and you should be ashamed for posing this situation, since it reveals that you think that being a black woman in the 1950's south is a bad thing, where one would somehow suffer for the experience.

 

[Airpiraterob]

I blame TV

kids have attention spans exactly equal to the moments in between commercials. mabye 8 minutes if theyre lucky....if YOU'RE lucky...

kids are advertised jeans that if they were any tighter and lower they'd be wearing assles denim chaps!....as fashion! the downside? 10 year old girls are getting this stuff! they're parents are buying this! the parent can say to their little girl "no, im not buying you clothes that are so tight it looks like youre just wearing body paint."

kids see casual sex on prime time TV as an OKAY thing! (or theyre just learning how to be a young pilot early on.) condom commercials at any given moment of the day on MTV and other related channels...that advocates safe sex yes...but also advocates sex to anyone whose watching....im not against sex at all!!! oh my god shoot me if i was. but would i want my 10 year old seeing that thinking that "if i just got that product...i could have sex"...thats what it says to me...

kids would rather play football on their Xbox-LIVE! or PS2 instead of go outside with their friends and play with the NERF in the front yard. reason? "it's so much cooler in Xbox, you do flips and stuff when you get hit."..that and his fat manboobs from sitting on the couch and playing it all day might get in the way. heh, you never see any fat teen kids on the commercials for this stuff do you. just toned and cut guys playing the games.

kids see violence as an okay thing. you only go to jail if you get caught. its only wrong if you get caught. displayed every day on TV crime shows. The husband accidentally kills his wife and is alright living with that. you don't see anyone on CSI turning themselves in out of guilt do you? id like to give the kids a copy of "crime and punishment" by Dostoevsky...all about the guilt.

...but im mafraid after 8 minutes theyd put it down and go play Xbox in the living room next to the teenage daughters room where shes having safe sex thats next to the empty front lawn with the nerf football thats been there for the last 5 months..

the parents cant feed their kids McDonalds a few times a week. it's always the parents fault their kids saw beavis set stuff on fire. its the parents fault their kids acted out the TV stuff...the parents are responsible absolutely. i wish they would act like it. whoops im 40 and have a kid about to be 12. ill just let him do his own thing......uhh....noooo! involve yourself in what he.she is doing. theres the guidance. parents are too busy now doing other crap.

yeah all the cool kids have this and have that....its what the kids do that matters.

 

[Airpiraterob]

oh yeah and although im only 29, if any kid walks on my property ill curse at them from my rocking chair on the porch!

"you blasted kids! get of my gosh durnned propper-tay" (serious fist-shakin)

 

[Typhoon1244]

Sounds like you were raised by conservatives, Typhoon...

Actually, I was raised by two Democrats who believed in raising disciplined children...if that's what you mean by "conservative."

I suspect you will become a conservative as you see your child grow.

Again, depends on what you mean by "conservative." If you mean I'm going to someday vote Republican and put a "Rush is Right!" bumper-sticker on my car...I doubt it. But I do plan on raising disciplined, healthy children.

I've already seen my views change on a couple of things: I'm now more anti-abortion and anti-nuclear-weapon than I used to be. One means leaning more to the left, the other means leaning more to the right...so on average, I haven't moved.

 

[VivaZapata]

In all seriousness, your comment is racist at its core, and you should be ashamed for posing this situation, since it reveals that you think that being a black woman in the 1950's south is a bad thing, where one would somehow suffer for the experience.

No, it is your denial of such that is racist.

 

[Typhoon1244]

Easy, Timebuilder. I think Viva's point is that the 1950's were not exactly an episode of Leave it to Beaver for everybody. Rape, murder, incest, crooked businessmen, crooked politicians, bigotry...all these things existed before 1970. The difference is that CNN, Fox News, etc. didn't.

I agree wholeheartedly that our culture has changed since 1950, but to say that we're (for example) less honest now? C'mon, in the '50's they were saying that cigarettes, radiation, and Joe McCarthy are good for you!

 

[WrightAvia]

kids are advertised jeans that if they were any tighter and lower they'd be wearing assles denim chaps!....as fashion!

I don't know how great that would look, but I wouldn't mind seeing crotchless leather boots come back into style. And them old time pointy bras. And HATS! Women doffed some pretty cool looking hats back in the Lauren Bacall days.

As far as the "good old days", evil people have been around forever. And people that just sat and watched evil go by are just as guilty.

Man accused in Nazi deaths deported

MIAMI - A Lithuanian immigrant accused of participating in the Nazi-led murders of Jews and other civilians during World War II has been deported to his native country, federal officials said Thursday.

Vytautas Gecas, 81, arrived in Vilnius, Lithuania, on Sunday, according to the Justice Department. Gecas had denied allegations of serving in a Nazi-led killing unit in Lithuania and Byelorussia, now known as Belarus, saying he was then an 18-year-old student.

"The departure of Vytautas Gecas from this country is another important step in the Justice Department's continuing efforts to deny sanctuary in the United States to those who participated in the perpetration of Nazi crimes," said Eli Rosenbaum, the director of the Justice Department's Office of Special Investigations.

Gecas immigrated to England in 1947, working as a miner, until 1962 when he moved to Chicago where he was an electrician, officials said. Later, he moved to Sunny Hills in Florida. He never became a U.S. citizen.

Gecas spent 18 months in jail for defying a U.S. District Court of Pensacola order to answer investigators' questions in May 1999.

Gecas served in the 2nd Lithuanian Schutzmannschaft Battalion that killed thousands of Jews, suspected communists and Soviet prisoners of war, according to court documents.

 

[bigD]

I think there's a tendency in everyone to focus on the good times in their past and forget about the bad.

I am much, much happier that I grew up when I did, rather than in the 50's. Although I think I would have preferred to be born about 5 years earlier than I was.

 

[WrightAvia]

Here's another one, in case you thought it was fluke that they would be deporting old nazi's from the U.S.

From the "good old days" files...

http://www.jsonline.com/news/racine/sep03/173886.asp

I feel sorry. I saw what they did to Jewish people. They were dying; they were like skeletons. I see the hole and people dying.

- Josias Kumpf,
former concentration camp guard