PC Flight Sims

[Doug]

Anyone know of a C152 add on for X-Plane?

 

[BoDEAN]

Anyone know of a C152 add on for X-Plane?

check http://www.x-plane.org

 

[Doug]

Also, can someone tell me more about Steve Small flight model?

 

[Owen_FSD]

Doug,

Steve Small is our flight model designer for our custom add-on aircraft. He's the best in the business!

If you want to read a review of our latest product, point your browser here:

http://www.avsim.com/pages/0105/avanti/avanti.htm

Best regards,

Owen

 

[The_Russian]

LOMAC and IL-2 are the best war sims. Extremely accurate flight models. I play them religiously.

I would never purchase a plane for MSFS. Never. You can get the best ones for free here.....http://www.flightsim.com and here http://www.avsim.com

Want to check out our Lomac demo team??? Here is a video.

Linky---->http://www.lockonskins.co.uk/linkcounter.php?LID=158

 

[Ill Mitch]

I would never purchase a plane for MSFS. Never. You can get the best ones for free here.....http://www.flightsim.com and here http://www.avsim.com


Linky---->http://www.lockonskins.co.uk/linkcounter.php?LID=158

I used to say the same thing. But then I purchased a few airplanes and they are way beyond any freeware that is out there.Capt. Sim has an awesome F-104 and MiG-21, and Real Air Simulations has a Marchetti sf.260 that is about as close as it can get (I used to fly one for a living). The best freeware out there is FSD-International's T-38, tho I did have the tweak the fuel flow numbers to get them closer the real thing.

IL-2 is super cool. The most realistic I have played with for formation flying.

Falcon 4.0 with the SP4 patch is a good one, but the enemy AI airplanes still perform a little better than the real dudes do during a fight. But eh. whaddya gonna do.

The sad part is, the hardcore flight sim market (with the exception of MSFS) is dead.

Oh yea....cool video...

 

[mtrv]

BoDEAN,

You haven't tried a Steve Small flight model then ... he makes MS FS rival X-Plane in physics!

Regards,

Owen

The REAL answers----
Now that this is turned into a flightsim forum!

X-Planes physic's model will give you an idea of what the plane might fly like. Unfortunately, because of it's smoothness, some believe this is more like flight. I don't!
Someone else once decscribed it's smoothness as having no character, and that many planes seem all alike. I agree! MSFS aircraft have character, and you actually develop a sense of feel. It's a faking of the senses, but it works.

MSFS uses lookup tables, which is usually closer to exact performance, than you'll get by designing an aircraft within X-Plane. Sim "smoothness" depends on complexity of scenery, and more bells & whistles than X-Plane has. Topography ( elevation mesh) available for MSFS is much more accurate than what's available for X-Plane at this time.

Next fact (according to my 15 years of flight sims). There are three or four 3rd party flight dynamic designers for MSFS (and more I'm sure) who have been in the business for many years. They have elevated MSFS models to perfection! Most are payware, but worth it. Steve Small (FSD) is one of these people. Some others that I'm familiar with for excellent products are DreamFleet & RealAir Simulations. All these designers are also licensed pilots. In fact many pilots & aircraft owners are also into flight simming.

I also own X-Plane, but never bought into the "myth" of it's superiority. It's mostly hype,IMO. Can be fun, but certainly not superior.

 

[Owen_FSD]

The best freeware out there is FSD-International's T-38, tho I did have the tweak the fuel flow numbers to get them closer the real thing.

Thanks for the kind words, Mitch. We are in the process of revising the T-38 for FS 2004, and will be realeasing it with the C-17 I originally released thru POSky for FS 2002, revised as well.

http://www.fsd-international.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1197&mesg_id=1197&page=4

http://www.fsd-international.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1224&mesg_id=1224&page=3

http://www.fsd-international.com/dc/dcboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=8&topic_id=1135&mesg_id=1135&page=5

Best regards,

Owen

 

[Owen_FSD]

Next fact (according to my 15 years of flight sims). There are three or four 3rd party flight dynamic designers for MSFS (and more I'm sure) who have been in the business for many years. They have elevated MSFS models to perfection! Most are payware, but worth it. Steve Small (FSD) is one of these people. Some others that I'm familiar with for excellent products are DreamFleet & RealAir Simulations. All these designers are also licensed pilots. In fact many pilots & aircraft owners are also into flight simming.

mtrv,
I totally agree. Rob Young and Ron Friemuth are very talented flight modellers as well. The really tough thing about designing FM's for MSFS is that it is not disclosed in any SDK. It is certainly an art designing an MSFS flight model. Steve has been known to spend well over 500 hrs. on a single flight model (which is what he spent on the Pilatus Porter).

Best regards,

Owen

 

[JRSLim]

I haven't tried the latest and greatest, but I enjoy EF2000, Janes WWII fighters and USAF. The best one I have is Red Baron 3D (old school - circa 1998). The flight model is very realistic (near as I can figure - you really have to plane your climbs to catch the baddies) and it lots o' fun too!