PC-12 Down in Montana

acarpe3448

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CNN is saying that there is 17 dead. I thaught this was a single that carried maybe 10 at the most! How can you get 17 in a single engine turbo-prop. If it did have seventeen on board maybe that is why it crashed.
 

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Fox News just said it was a twin turboprop. Beech 1900?

Godspeed to all those who perished, thoughts and prayers with the families. A large number of the fatalities were children...
 

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The genius at CNN is saying that the PC12 may have been a stunt plane, or that it may be a small cessna plane...but this is the same genius who is simulataneously reporting that the FedEx MD11 down in Tokyo would have at least one pilot, and possibly also a copilot onboard...

They are saying the FAA are confirming 17 onboard are dead. Is there a PC12 config with 15 seats in back?? The pax were apparently all kids on a ski trip.
 
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UK Ops TCDS from factory 1+14 seats Same as C208.
US ltd to 2+9 Same as C208.

Sad day indeed. Seaport was startup couple of years ago (2007?) out of Portland, OR and operating around PacNW.

What would the pilot be thinking? 15-16 people @ 150# avg in a rear CG after burning 1500# JetA (600pph @ 2.5hrs FT)? You would be alright on takeoff as that big motor slings 1200HP of airflow over the tail. You are screwed on short final with the power at idle and no airspeed (~80-90KIAS) to keep the nose lowered.

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children under 2 on laps? This doesn't sound right, that would mean that they had 2+9+ 5 children on laps! All under 2 years? In a PC-12? something isn't right.
 

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Ok, any chance some of the reported dead were on the ground?

If not, and there were actually that many bodies on the aircraft, it's not making sense.

While possible, I'm thinking it's a stretch to say they had that many lappers? Don't you think?

I'm thinking folks sitting in the isle, packed it, etc...
 

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Seeing as he crashed into a cemetery, the chances are pretty good, I'd say.
Funniest post I have ever seen. Ever! Although a sad situation no doubt. RIP.
 

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Seeing as he crashed into a cemetery, the chances are pretty good, I'd say.
Like the old classic:

Authorities have recovered over a thousand bodies, but digging is expected to continue throughout the night....
 

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12 young children lose their life and you're cracking jokes? You people are fing losers, I am ashamed to be in the same profession as you.

God rest their souls.
 

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12 young children lose their life and you're cracking jokes? You people are fing losers, I am ashamed to be in the same profession as you.

God rest their souls.
Aha! Here it is:

[FONT=times new roman,helvetica]"A small two-seater Cessna 152 plane crashed into a cemetery early this afternoon in central Poland. Polish search and rescue workers have recovered 300 bodies so far and expect that number to climb as digging continues into the evening."
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Ok, any chance some of the reported dead were on the ground?
Seeing as he crashed into a cemetery, the chances are pretty good, I'd say.
That one was probably too hard to pass up. I saw it coming before I got to your post.

12 young children lose their life and you're cracking jokes? You people are fing losers, I am ashamed to be in the same profession as you.

God rest their souls.
A-lot of sick things happen in this world and everybody reacts to them differently. If humor is their outlet. Let them have it.

2009 has been a bad year. Some of are just trying not to get too down about it.
 
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