Pbi Incident?????????

[FISHINGOR]

Does anyone know what happened in PBI on 3-3-05 with the 800XP. How close did FLOPS get to losing one?

 

[Diesel]

what are you talking about?

 

[Dep676]

Yes do tell.

 

[PHX767]

Somebody from flight admin sent out to all the blackberries a dramatic announcement that while one of our 800xp's had an "irregularity" (?) during a mx test flight all was well and there was no cause for concern.

Which in turn causes all to ask "WTF happened?"

Instead of stating the facts and getting it over with, now there is rampant speculation.

So it could be anything from a engine shutdown to a flight control malfunction to a yellow light coming on.

 

[learflyer]

Is it normal for us to have a "media line"? Do any other fracs have this? Are we that paranoid about shiznet hapening that we have a special media line? The guys at flops know what I am talking about. Every time something like this happens, we get a message on the bb's saying "don't talk to the media, direct them to our media line". What a way to do business!

 

[Dep676]

Somebody from flight admin sent out to all the blackberries a dramatic announcement that while one of our 800xp's had an "irregularity" (?) during a mx test flight all was well and there was no cause for concern.

Which in turn causes all to ask "WTF happened?"

Instead of stating the facts and getting it over with, now there is rampant speculation.

So it could be anything from a engine shutdown to a flight control malfunction to a yellow light coming on.

I know I got the message. I just thought the person who started this thread might have some insight about what happened. If it just came out of MX in PBI. Nothing surprises me. The band aids are going to eventually break.

 

[Correcting]

We get these at Netjets too. It comes across our pagers and tells us to not talk to media and refer all questions to our PR department. We are usually given a pretty vague description as to what happened, such as engine failure, gear collapse, etc. Then of course, Netjets NEVER shares any of it's safety info with the pilots, so we can never learn from others' heroic actions or mistakes (or as Gary Hart would say, "challenges")

 

[Grim Reaper]

Corporate jet mishap rates are spiraling upward. Recent crashes and incidents, Challenger in Montrose, Gulf Stream in Eagle, Gulf Stream in Teterboro, Challenger in Teterboro, give the FAA reason to take pause and wonder about certificate holder compliance. All charter and FRACTIONAL (yes, NJA/NJI also) operators are under the microscope. Every aspect of the operation; scheduling, duty regulation compliance, training, safety oversight, maintenance, etc is all under close scrutiny. The FEDS are going to give each company just enough rope to hang itself. The strength of the system relies on the integrity of the system. The integrity of the system relies upon the integrity of the individual operator. I strongly suggest that we, as fractional pilots, cover our six. Guys, if it does not pass the smell test, do not do it. Life is too short and while we all need a job, we do not necessarily need this job.

 

[Dep676]

Corporate jet mishap rates are spiraling upward. Recent crashes and incidents, Challenger in Montrose, Gulf Stream in Eagle, Gulf Stream in Teterboro, Challenger in Teterboro, give the FAA reason to take pause and wonder about certificate holder compliance. All charter and FRACTIONAL (yes, NJA/NJI also) operators are under the microscope. Every aspect of the operation; scheduling, duty regulation compliance, training, safety oversight, maintenance, etc is all under close scrutiny. The FEDS are going to give each company just enough rope to hang itself. The strength of the system relies on the integrity of the system. The integrity of the system relies upon the integrity of the individual operator. I strongly suggest that we, as fractional pilots, cover our six. Guys, if it does not pass the smell test, do not do it. Life is too short and while we all need a job, we do not necessarily need this job.

Well said!!!!!!!!

I just hope something gets done before we lose someone.

 

[Grim Reaper]

The EVENT in PBI, whatever it was, gives me reason to be more than concerned. I am very worried. Of course, no one is surprised that something near deadly would happen with an aircraft coming out of the FO maintenance station PBI.