Passenger lights firecrackers in NWA cabin, injuries reported

[nwa_contrails]

• Pat downs of passengers at airport security, concentrating on the upper torso and legs;
• Physical inspections of all carry-on bags at the gate;
• Requiring all passengers to be seated for the full hour prior to arrival;
• Banning the use of blankets and pillows one hour prior to arrival.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said travelers should expect additional steps as well. "These measures are designed to be unpredictable, so passengers should not expect to see the same thing everywhere.

Can we say knee-jerk reaction?

 

[Erlanger]

Now we're hearing that this guy never was on the no-fly list as originally reported. All this could of been avoided if someone had done their job properly. The FBI says this guy was being watched for the past 2 years and believed to be a terrorist but no one told TSA to put him on the no-fly list.

 

[Iceman540]

Apparently he never received the Al Qaeda internal memo about only using fireworks on July 4th if performing a terrorist attack on the US, and November 5th if against the UK....Brings a whole new meaning to the expression "Crotch Rocket".

 

[OneBadLT123]

It has already started. A new kneejerk directive from TSA announced this morning to the airlines.

Crewmembers are not to make any announcements to the passengers or to talk to them individually about the flight path, cities or landmarks flying over. On international flights only to the U.S., passengers are to remain in their seats during the last 1 hr of flight or the entirety if the flight is 1 hr or less.

I wonder what they are going to do with the fancy TV's that have the little airplane on the map?

 

[sat74]

I wonder what they are going to do with the fancy TV's that have the little airplane on the map?

Was just told by an FO friend at brand X getting ready to depart for Europe who said their IFE must be turned off for the ENTIRE flight except for the safety demo! Cabin lighting must remain on as well!

WTF!??

 

[Dornier 335]

The latest news about this nutcase is that his dad - a well known and respected banker - warned the US Embassy in Nigeria about the extreme tendencies his son had developed. I guess the news didn't reach the other end of the bureaucratic dinosaur: The revocation of his visa and his free upgrade to the No-Fly list!

 

[Grinder10]

• Pat downs of passengers at airport security, concentrating on the upper torso and legs;
• Physical inspections of all carry-on bags at the gate;
• Requiring all passengers to be seated for the full hour prior to arrival;
• Banning the use of blankets and pillows one hour prior to arrival.

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano said travelers should expect additional steps as well. "These measures are designed to be unpredictable, so passengers should not expect to see the same thing everywhere.

As if the TSA has not been doing this for years. She just made a policy to excuse their lack of national standardization!

 

[Erlanger]

Read this. This guy gets handed to U.S. authorities by his dad and nothing gets done about it. What I can't understand is even though they say that they couldn't find enough negative info on this guy to keep him off the no-fly list, why couldn't they atleast put him on a watch list, that for people like him would get flagged and get additional screening.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581191,00.html

 

[Erlanger]

So this terrorist goes to the bathroom for 20 minutes they say and then returns to his seat and trys to blow up a plane in the last hour of flight. This being seated for the last hour of arrival into the U.S. is going to stop a would-be terrorists from trying to ignite an explosion? So they can't make a spectacular explosion rain down on an American city, they just blow it up over the Atlantic or on departure now.

And this not making announcements of the flightpath, cities or landmarks flying going to stop them either? I suppose the government is going to shut down websites like Flightaware.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

He kiestered some PETN is what I read on ASN. How the heck do you protect against that? Make the lavs like those puffer/sniffer things at the security checkpoints?

 

[another cfii]

He kiestered some PETN is what I read on ASN. How the heck do you protect against that? Make the lavs like those puffer/sniffer things at the security checkpoints?

Easy. Pax will be stripped of their undies before boarding.

 

[Oakum_Boy]

All of you are forgetting that liberals have made it their business to see that guys like this have equal rights. Just wait til cops can't pull over a certain demographic for fear of a lawsuit. Now that'll be change we can believe in!

 

[Dornier 335]

Easy. Pax will be stripped of their undies before boarding.

...soon to be followed by rectal visual inspections. Sounds more like being in a supermax to me.

Edit:

Don't know much about this explosive material being used in this terrorist attempt. Can it be traced back to its origin by its composition?

 

[Fearless Tower]

He kiestered some PETN is what I read on ASN. How the heck do you protect against that? Make the lavs like those puffer/sniffer things at the security checkpoints?

Here's the new solution: Replace Air Marshalls with crotch-sniffing dogs. This one's checking in for his flight:

http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/2009/TRAVEL/12/26/us.passenger.restrictions/t1main.dog.lax.afp.jpg

 

[Jetz]

So this terrorist goes to the bathroom for 20 minutes they say and then returns to his seat and trys to blow up a plane in the last hour of flight. This being seated for the last hour of arrival into the U.S. is going to stop a would-be terrorists from trying to ignite an explosion? So they can't make a spectacular explosion rain down on an American city, they just blow it up over the Atlantic or on departure now.

And this not making announcements of the flightpath, cities or landmarks flying going to stop them either? I suppose the government is going to shut down websites like Flightaware.

This is a scary thought in a sick world. Maybe that is what happened to Air France, and hey wasn't the Air France aircraft that broke apart over the ocean the same type of Airbus? Authorities should certainly be wondering if the two are linked somehow. ???

All the more reason to fly your own private aircraft.

 

[Abernathy]

This is a scary thought in a sick world. Maybe that is what happened to Air France, and hey wasn't the Air France aircraft that broke apart over the ocean the same type of Airbus? Authorities should certainly be wondering if the two are linked somehow. ???

All the more reason to fly your own private aircraft.

Air France couldn't have been terrorism. The whole purpose of terrorism is to strike fear into people, and if no one claimed responsibility for the attack, no one would know it was terrorism. Not to mention the ACARS messags that were automatically sent out supporting some kind of performance/structural issues.

As far as profiling, and everyone saying we need to profile, the fact is we already do. The only PC part of the whole thing is when they check ol' granny as an extra. We saw this when the TSA leaked their manual. Everyone coming from Syria, Jordan, other Middle Eastern countries, Nigeria, Algeria, etc. automatically get extra screening. That's textbook profiling. We lost this time because this guy went through initial screening in Nigeria, and they probably don't have state of the art screening over there.

 

[Tweaker]

Apolitical Abernathy is right on profiling. What I am suggesting is El Al type measures. BTW, the El Al experts have said that we don't have a security system, just a harassment system!

1) Don't waste limited resources (time, $, manpower) on those that statistically are insignificant (tiny kids, old white people with walkers) Call me a racist, (I prefer culturist) but ALL OF THE PERPETRATORS HAVE BEEN MUSLIM MALES BETWEEN 25-45 YEARS OLD. When reality stares you in the face; don't turn away, learn from it!

2) Increased measures in the area of behaviorial profiling and interogating. This is many times more effective than simple "he be dark, he's the mark" profiling that makes the libs squirm.

3) Take aggressive action without red tape, fear of getting in trouble or getting criticized when the evidence warrants. What is the price for being occasionally wrong, inconveniencing/embarrassing the innocent? What is the price for being ineffective and lame? FT. HOOD TEXAS, PENTAGON, FLT. 93, BOTH TWIN TOWERS ON 2 OCCASIONS, in addition to the intangible cost of everyone knowing that the current US system is simply a random harrassment program, embarassing in its futility, ridiculed by its participants.

 

[Jim Smyth]

Anyone read the new TSA Security Directives resulting from this incident? more annoying changes in order...

Yep and this flight originated in Amsterdam. They are the ones that didnt do security screening correctly and now all the whole US has to pay for it. Totally amazing that after all this time from 911 the BS just keeps getting deeper. uke:

I am waiting for a female passenger to try to ignite her bra during flight! Now that would be progress when they outlaw those!

 

[Jetz]

WTF is going in in Detriot right now? Another one???

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,581232,00.html

 

[Metro752]

Yep.

Another Nigerian arrested.