Part 141 or type 141?

[Flechas]

Pues, que bueno. Voy a Pittsburg el 24 del mes proximo para asistir un curso en FlightSafety. ?Quisas podemos comer un poco de cena una noche?

'Sled

Que romanticos, no me invitan?

 

[sopdan]

Oh yeah...another bonus of some 141 schools is "self examining authority"

It should be added that not all 141 schools have self examining authority. A school would have to meet certain requirements (I believe its 90% pass rate or something like that).

And as for a school that takes a student from 0 time to CFII in 6 months, I don't believe it, and if it is true, than I would have to say that those must be extreme cases.

Edit: I just realized that minitour said "some 141 schools," sorry about that...

 

[minitour]

It should be added that not all 141 schools have self examining authority. A school would have to meet certain requirements (I believe its 90% pass rate or something like that).

Like I said...

...another bonus of some 141 schools is "self examining authority"

And as for a school that takes a student from 0 time to CFII in 6 months, I don't believe it, and if it is true, than I would have to say that those must be extreme cases.

Well...I don't believe it either, after being in the CSE program for 4+ months. But I did fly with a guy here that went from 0 time to CFII in 6 months. It's possible under their syllabus...you just have to get them to do it for you.

You can (again...getting them to do it is another thing) do the Private, then Instrument/Commercial training at the same time (just take the IR ride before the CPL). Then you double up the CFII and CMEL and add on the CFI. If you can get through the private in 6-8 weeks, it's doable.

-mini

 

[comander]

Que romanticos, no me invitan?

hehehehe ya sabes flechas si algun dia vienes estas invitado , me gustaria mas invitarte en mi patria ,para ir a dar un vuelin pero aun no se cuando voy para aya, saludos y salud!

 

[sopdan]

Yeah, sorry, minitour, I caught that about the same time you were posting...

 

[bobbysamd]

Part 141

What does this mean ? thanks.

No hablo mucho espanol; yo escribe in ingles.

14 CFR 141 is the section of the FARs which deals with approved flight schools. These regs establish requirements for the training course, instructors, chief flight instructors, facilities, flight tests and certificate issuance. As was written above, an entity wanting to establish as an FAA-approved flight school must submit its training course to the FAA for approval and maintain a certain pass rate to retain its certification. Compare with 14 CFR 61, which sets forth pilot certification requirements and only requires that you have a flight instructor to train you.

Discussions on the pros and cons of Part 61 training versus Part 141 training can be found elsewhere on the board if you run a search.

Hope that helps some more.

 

[bobbysamd]

Accelerated training

And as for a school that takes a student from 0 time to CFII in 6 months, I don't believe it, and if it is true, than I would have to say that those must be extreme cases.

Well, you do have All-ATPs, which purportedly takes you through all ratings to MEI in 90 days!

When I was at FSI, students routinely completed the Commercial-Multi-Instrument course in six months. I recall it taking my CFI students another six to eight weeks to earn their initial CFI.

The reason why these programs can train you so quickly is because you're training constantly. On the other hand, especially in a 90-day program, you are asked to absorb a lot of new and unfamiliar learning in a very short time. While I like Part 141 because of the discipline a school environment imposes, and because you can learn more, better and faster, and maybe cheaper under such discipline, it is debatable if drinking from a firehose is wise in the long run. You can lose your learning as quickly as you obtained it if you don't put it use immediately.

 

[comander]

No hablo mucho espanol; yo escribe in ingles.

14 CFR 141 is the section of the FARs which deals with approved flight schools. These regs establish requirements for the training course, instructors, chief flight instructors, facilities, flight tests and certificate issuance. As was written above, an entity wanting to establish as an FAA-approved flight school must submit its training course to the FAA for approval and maintain a certain pass rate to retain its certification. Compare with 14 CFR 61, which sets forth pilot certification requirements and only requires that you have a flight instructor to train you.

Discussions on the pros and cons of Part 61 training versus Part 141 training can be found elsewhere on the board if you run a search.

Hope that helps some more.

It did help more thanks alot I appreciate it

 

[minitour]

Yeah, sorry, minitour, I caught that about the same time you were posting...

No worries man

 

[bobbysamd]

It did help more thanks alot I appreciate it

No problema, amigo.