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The parking brake was off and the crew did everything correct as per standard operating ops. The cable binded or got cought and the aircraft did land with the parking brake on. Again the handle was in the full down position, there is no EICAS message when the parking brake is engaged. The crew has been cleared and is out flying the line again or will be tomorrow.

Note for 170 crews, on the landing checklist where you do "EICAS......Checked" you should also make a habit of looking down at the very small parking brake light which is no where near the EICAS panel. Just one of the growing pains of operating a new aircraft type. The crew handeled the incident very well and professionally. Remember boys and girls - Fate is the Hunter.

Also there is not one pilot on the MDA list with less than 6 years 121 exp. Nobody here APL or CEL has less than 5500 tt and there are maybe 10 FO's from the CEL list that did not hold Capt at ALG or PDT at some time. Thats 100% with greater than 5000 hours total time and 98% have 121 PIC time with a type rating of some kind. All in all I'd say a pretty exp'd group of pilots, however you'd have to be a fool or someone who has no clue about this profession to say it precludes anyone here or anyother pilot group for that matter from screwing the pooch.
 
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Doug Parker said:
It was an MDA crew in a 170 @ IAH last monday.


All the more reason to kkep those aircraft on mainline, away from the amateurs...........
A DHL DC8 also blew all of its tires on landing a few weeks ago. So are they amatures as well? Nice try though dipsh1t.
 
LegacyDriver said:
If you spell "BRAKE" b-r-e-a-k then I am surprised you didn't attend BRIAN BEDFORD'S SCHOOL OF TYPING.


Sheesh.

brake/break whatever, no not bedfords school but I did go to college with Dan Quayle's son.
 
Expressjet Parking Brake

Dangerkitty said:
An Expressjet crew did the same thing in an EMB-145 in EWR a few years ago. There is a shuttle valve between the 2 hydraulic systems in which many times one system will be lower than the other due to fluid passing through the shuttle valve.

You can do a little "manuever" with the Parking brake that allows fluid to go back the opposite way to even up the hydraulic levels on both sides. Thats what the Expressjet crew was doing and the left the brake on by accident. For the life of me I don't know why crews mess with it. Just call MX and have them refill the system.

I know the clown captain who did this. I would say that there is a little more to it. This guy has some major issues. It is scary to think that he is still out there flying around. Becareful Expressjet FOs.
 
Can I get on the hottie in your avatar for T/O?
 
trip said:
Probably monkied with the parking brake in flight for some reason? I've heard of that once before on a Brasilia.

Yeah, but that was a system chief pilot and VP of Flight Ops.
 
Happened on an XJ SAAB 'bout 4 years back. I think the Capt. bet the FO the anti-skid "touchdown protection" wouldn't allow the parking brake to work.

He lost the bet.
 
Al Murdock said:
I know the clown captain who did this. I would say that there is a little more to it. This guy has some major issues. It is scary to think that he is still out there flying around. Becareful Expressjet FOs.

I know him too but I didn't and don't wanna reveal his identity. I never flew with him but he seemed to be a real nice guy in the crew room. He is lucky to still have a job.
 
In the CRJ, if the parking brake is even slightly out of position with the gear down in flight, an anti skid inboard/outboard msg will come up. The QRH calls for checking parking brake off.
 
Doug Parker said:
It was an MDA crew in a 170 @ IAH last monday.


All the more reason to kkep those aircraft on mainline, away from the amateurs...........

Wow, are you really that much of a d-i-c-k or are you just not as funny as you think you are??
 
Also there is not one pilot on the MDA list with less than 6 years 121 exp. Nobody here APL or CEL has less than 5500 tt and there are maybe 10 FO's from the CEL list that did not hold Capt at ALG or PDT at some time. Thats 100% with greater than 5000 hours total time and 98% have 121 PIC time with a type rating of some kind. All in all I'd say a pretty exp'd group of pilots, however you'd have to be a fool or someone who has no clue about this profession to say it precludes anyone here or anyother pilot group for that matter from screwing the pooch.


oooooooh, 6+ years of turboprop flying in the NE out of the same airports over and over. That's a challenge !!

And yes, I am a dick, but a senior dick at that !!
 
The captain I flew with last week was the FO on a bro that landed with it on. He was the PF. he said the Captain was transfering hyd fluid from the green to the blue system and in doing so had left the parking brake on by mistake. He said they blew out the tires and it was one crazy ride. It happend about 2 years ago.
I know of one other time it also happend in the bro.
 
Come together, right now.

Doug Parker said:
And yes, I am a dick. . . !!

Well, at least we can all agree on one thing.
 
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It's happened at least twice on the Dash 8. I'm told it was the same guy both times. Still working too. If it was him, it wouldn't suprise me at all.
 
Doug Parker said:
And yes, I am a dick, but a senior dick at that !!

Yeah, you are right... I have heard all about you, you and your old balls too. Do you ever have anything productive to contribute? Or let me guess, you are so senior that your brain doesn't get past the morning crap and the newspaper in the cockpit. I get it.
 
Doug Parker said:
All the more reason to kkep those aircraft on mainline, away from the amateurs...........

Yes he is a dick.

The guys at Mid-Atlantic come from excellent backgrounds in aviation. As Lear stated, most of MDA's pilots have a lot of time including PIC 121 time; weather it be in a DCH8, Jetstream, or a B737. It's sad that you undermined the intelligence of the pilots at MDA. I'm sure they did everything they were suppose to do.
How about being concerned about the condition of the passengers and Pilots.

I saw the pictures today in our Maintenance ops. Tires and Rim's looked pretty bad.
 

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