Parking at NJ?

[Wankel7]

I have seen two posts that NJ no longer pays for your parking ?

 

[CA1900]

That's correct.

In the previous contract, folks based at the 5 domiciles would have parking reimbursed if there wasn't company-provided parking (such as in CMH). In the current contract, we're freed from the five domiciles, but parking's on us.

At most of the bases (but not all), the FBOs we use will let us park our cars for the week, and give us a ride to and from the airline terminal if necessary. Tip the drivers generously.

Parking was not reimbursed at the Home Base Airports for the folks who had those -- only the five domiciles. As my drive has gotten 150 miles shorter (each way), I think I can handle the parking.

 

[Wankel7]

Yeah but still....wow.....I don't understand why they would do that or even be allowed to do that? I mean if you live in DFW....there really is not much of a GA presence there.

I am sure some people are going to be paying out of pocket big time for parking.

 

[On Your Six]

Yeah but still....wow.....I don't understand why they would do that or even be allowed to do that? I mean if you live in DFW....there really is not much of a GA presence there.

I am sure some people are going to be paying out of pocket big time for parking.

Well, with the new TA, most pilots will have more money to pay for parking (at least the junior pilots). It's all about tradeoffs...

 

[theskyking]

I'll take the $18,000/yr raise and pay the $1800/yr parking. But that's just me.

 

[Wankel7]

I hear you on that...I dunno still kinda sucks...18k raise...subtract 35 percent for taxes and its down to 11,700. Then minus 1800 for parking and your down to 9900 extra a year in your pocket.

Granted that is still one heck of a raise even in the post tax sense and at least it is tax deductable.

 

[learflyer]

party over, fellas?

 

[DHPFLYN]

Check with your local airport parking lots. I know here in IAH there are two or three that will give you a very good monthly rate to park there and the shuttle picks you up and drops you off at the terminal. Some here are as low as $35 a month. I have heard alot of them around the country do the same. Just check around !!

 

[CA1900]

Not at all. I just don't see the parking as a big enough issue to waste negotiating capital on, that's all. Company-paid parking came into being with the domicile system; it doesn't break my heard to lose one in the process of killing the other.

There are a few cities where this will be an issue, but not many. If you figure $12 a day average for a satellite lot at a major airport; that's $84 per 7-day tour. 24 tours (2 weeks of vacation for first few years; more later) at that rate is about $2000. But in most cases, you can park at an FBO, a cooperative hotel, or an off-airport shuttle lot for much less or for nothing. (We do a ton of business at these FBOs, and most of them want to keep us happy.)

Basically, we had bigger fish to fry, and we weren't going to step on a dollar to pick up a nickel. Let me put it another way: under the old contract, if a first-year guy got in after midnight, he'd get a single extended day's pay of $321. Under the new contract, he'll get $937.50 -- two extended days' pay at the new rate.

Two of those late returns would pay for parking for the folks who need it. I got six after-midnight returns last year, which would have earned me $3699 more under this new contract, just for those after-midnight returns alone.


So no, learflyer, party ain't even close to over.

 

[Ultra Grump]

Yeah but still....wow.....I don't understand why they would do that or even be allowed to do that? I mean if you live in DFW....there really is not much of a GA presence there.

I am sure some people are going to be paying out of pocket big time for parking.

If it sucks so bad to pay for parking, stay where you are. They do pay for your parking, after all.

 

[theskyking]

Also, just do like I do and drive right past DFW to park at the DAL signature. No big deal. Also increases my chances for an after midnight since most of our airline travel is out of DFW and would have to include a taxi at the end to get me to my car.

The parking fees can be used towards a tax deduction as well.

I think this is a case of making mountains out of mole hills.

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

I live in BHM. 15 minutes from the airport. If I get the job my wife will be dropping me off and picking me up. Problem solved.

 

[theskyking]

Auburn

You might talk to Jet South there at BHM. Looks like they are the preferred FBO and they might let you park.

It can be hard on the wife and kid sometimes with a 0500 show on day 1 or a 2330 arrival on day 7. Doesn't happen all the time, but it will happen.

sk

 

[-FlyAuburn-]

Auburn

You might talk to Jet South there at BHM. Looks like they are the preferred FBO and they might let you park.

It can be hard on the wife and kid sometimes with a 0500 show on day 1 or a 2330 arrival on day 7. Doesn't happen all the time, but it will happen.

sk

Yeah, I see what you mean. The hangar I work out of right now is over here at Mercury (now Atlantic East Ramp) and I know all of the line guys and CSRs so it shouldn't be a problem.

Then again, you don't know my wife. She would wake up at the crack of dawn to save money every day of the week if she had to.

 

[imacdog]

party over, fellas?

It gets worse too - we didn't get uniform hats and Superbowl Sunday is not a recognized holiday for overtime pay. Don't apply here!

 

[CA1900]

It gets worse too - we didn't get uniform hats...

But we did get sunglasses!

 

[OCP]

If you pay, it would be tax deductable. (at least I think)

 

[Wiggums]

If you pay, it would be tax deductable. (at least I think)

That is incorrect. You cannot deduct vehicle expenses unless they are business related.

 

[Skunk]

Ask your airport if they offer employee or commuter parking.

For instance, at Tallahassee, the Operations people within the main terminal offer a Commuter pass for $15/month ($180/yr). Provide the proper ID and credentials. I now have a card w/magnetic strip and have access to a separate parking lot.

Worth a try.

 

[OCP]

That is incorrect. You cannot deduct vehicle expenses unless they are business related.

So if you're employer requires you to park somewhere for your job but doesn't pay the fee required to actually park there, that is not deductable?

p.s. I'm not trying to say you're wrong, just looking for info. My wife is in that type of situation.

 

[fly26]

What's the big deal about parking? 95%+ of the home airports we have offer free parking available for us thru the fbo's. Of course there are exceptions....CVG, DFW come to mind. Those guys have to get creative and get access to the employee parking lot if available or find a local hotel that will let you park and take their shuttle.

 

[chignutsak]

I hear you on that...I dunno still kinda sucks...18k raise...subtract 35 percent for taxes and its down to 11,700. Then minus 1800 for parking and your down to 9900 extra a year in your pocket.

Does this mean you won't apply? Cool, one less resume for me to compete with! Wait...hold that thought. Ya know, my crappy regional reimburses me for my parking. I'm staying...

 

[DO-82 driver]

Its not a question of what we are but rather how much we are willing to sell ourselves for.

 

[Ultra Grump]

That is incorrect. You cannot deduct vehicle expenses unless they are business related.

What is not business-related about having to pay for parking at the airport? I have deducted parking expenses for years.

 

[Wiggums]

What is not business-related about having to pay for parking at the airport? I have deducted parking expenses for years.

Generally you cannot deduct commuting expenses, only business expenses. Examples of business related activities would be transporting NJ clients or equipment in your vehicle. Travel to your job site is considered commuting expenses not matter how far it is from your home. Now I'm not sure exactly what NJ rules are but under the FlexJet satellite base system you could deduct all your vehicle expenses under the rule below if you live outside the metro area where you work.

No regular place of work. If you have no regular place of work but ordinarily work in the metropolitan area where you live, you can deduct daily transportation costs between home and a temporary work site outside that metropolitan area.
Generally, a metropolitan area includes the area within the city limits and the suburbs that are considered part of that metropolitan area. You cannot deduct daily transportation costs between your home and temporary work sites within your metropolitan area. These are nondeductible commuting expenses.

However, if I understand NJ policy correctly you are based at one airport and the IRS will probably consider that airport your place of business.

Parking fees. Fees you pay to park your car at your place of business are nondeductible commuting expenses. You can, however, deduct business-related parking fees when visiting a customer or client.

See Publication 463.

 

[Skimatic]

Wife works downtown in a major city.

Wife must pay for garage parking.

Company does not reimburse.

Not deductable as it is a commuting expense not a business expense. When wife goes out of town on company business from the major airport, company pays for parking.

Wife is a CPA in some 15 states. Does tax work. Knows the rules. Been doing it for 20 years. She (we) do tax returns for several pilot friends.

Husband is domiciled with a frax at major airport. Pays for parking. Not reimbursed by company. Not deductable as it is a commuting expense. It is not a business expense.