PAKISTANI sues JetBlue! WOW!!!

[scoreboard]

Again, HOW ?!?! You clearly said Muslims here need to "go over there and stop this mess."

So i ask again, how ??? Let's start with they fly out to the Middle East, and now what?


You can't just wave a magic wand and have singing ponies solve the problem.


Other than that, during the day from 8:30am to 5pm, I worked at my engineering job for a defense contractor.

You answer with the well worn Islam mantra "poor poor pitiful me, it can't be my fault so it must be gods will, i have no control, i have no means to solve the problem, woe is me..." B.S.

You have the means to make a difference, if you cannot figure that out, you are part of the problem, sitting there doing nothing. Your an engineer or claim to be for crying out loud, figure out a solution to why your religion is going to keep escalating this conflict until someone starts throwing Nukes around, you heard it here first.

Singing ponies would be cool, now thats a nice idea, work on that.

Oh, and think fast:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/10/uk.terror/index.html

Cause, 300 million folks are getting a little tired of the crap

thread creep out.

 

[DH2WN]

He was a good guy at FLYI. I hope he takes Blue Balls for every penny they have. What did they make in the last quarter, 13 mil? I hope he gets all of it.

 

[9rj9]

he picked a bad time to sue jetblue

now we have more muslims trying to blow up planes, not much sympathy from a jury now. No one will ever hire him now.

 

[Slippery Mick]

I would like to know we never hear about non-radical Muslim groups condemning the radical Muslims for their actions?

Because you don't visit mosques and because it's not obnoxious enough to appear on CNN or hateful enough to appear on Fox News.

 

[Slippery Mick]

Listen to you all !

You're using the sad excuse of 9/11 and the actions of 19 men to collectively group an entire religion of 1.4 billion people as terrorists.

Yes, there are many muslim extremists, but it's only a few percentage of the 1.4 billion muslims who are like that.


In America, there are Muslim doctors, lawyers, engineers, teachers, businessmen, airline pilots, flight attendants, mechanics, and any other trade you can imagine.

There are Muslims serving in the US Air Froce, Army, Navy and the Marines.

There are US Muslim armed services members who are serving our country by fighting the war in Iraq and Afghanistan right now, just so your bigoted a$$es can go to bed safely tonight.



Grow up, people!

Cheers!

 

[Slippery Mick]

I have read it, and the quran clearly teaches conversion by the sword.

You mention Timothy McVeigh and the KKK. Fine, but neither one of them have ever stated that they were committing violence in the name of the Bible. In fact, Jesus very emphatically teaches NOT to use violence, so anyone who commits an act of violence and says they are following the Bible are actually contradicting it.

The same cannot be said for islam.

You are truly an idiot, and a liar. And you claim moral superiority?

 

[Slippery Mick]

The aims of the few radical terrorist muslims intent on destroying the West are no different than the few radical terrorist christians intent on destroying Islam.

The quack followers of Pat Robertson are no different than the quack followers of OBL.

And today, these and other quack christians are cheering on Israel in support of the mythic belief that Jesus is on his way home. Pat Robertson is in Jerusalem to give moral support to the Israelis, because he believes this is the beginning of armageddon. It's not much of a mystic prophecy if it's self-fulfilling.

Jesus' peace-loving statements contradict the West's use of military power. The real evil lies in ignorance, of passively letting the President and those whole pull his strings unleash havoc, pain, and misery on the innocent. And America is morally superior?

 

[frog_flyer]

I didn't get a scholarship because I'm white.

Who can I sue?

 

[Flyer1015]

You answer with the well worn Islam mantra "poor poor pitiful me, it can't be my fault so it must be gods will, i have no control, i have no means to solve the problem, woe is me..." B.S.

I still dont know where you're getting this BS of god's will."

You have the means to make a difference, if you cannot figure that out, you are part of the problem, sitting there doing nothing.

Again, you said go over there and fix it... that's much easier said than done. Just how do you fix it?! Our administration thinks blowing the sh*t out of things there should solve it... that's gone pretty well for the past three and a half years.

Your an engineer or claim to be for crying out loud, figure out a solution to why your religion is going to keep escalating this conflict until someone starts throwing Nukes around, you heard it here first.

Who are you to assume I am a Muslim? Just because I'm defending them or their religion?

Yes, I'm a structural engineer.

You are smoking some nice high quality weed if you seriously think American Muslims can go over there and fix the whole problem. We've gone back and forth, back and forth, and you STILL have NOT offered a solution to the problem. Because the problem is, there isn't a clear one. American muslims can't just walk into the Middle East and approach al-Qaeda and tell them to knock this sh*t off.

Oh, and think fast:

http://www.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/europe/08/10/uk.terror/index.html

Cause, 300 million folks are getting a little tired of the crap

thread creep out.

Yes, I heard about that. It's sad what terrorists are trying to do, but I'm glad they were stopped before any damage could be done.

And yes, I'm one of those 300 million folks who are getting tired of this crap.


But look at you, just pointing fingers at American Muslims and telling them to "go over there and solve all the problems." That's disillusioned thinking at best.

 

[RedBelly]

It's not being PC...it is what this country was founded on. If you'll remember history class, the Pilgrims came to this country so they would have freedom of religion. If you don't like a job applicant then don't hire him but it is absolutely not right to not hire someone or fire them based on their religious beliefs. Why? Because this is America!

You did not read my statement carefully. I never said it was right to not hire someone based upon their religion, only that a private company should have the right to do it. There is a huge difference between not being hired by a company, and being persecuted for you religious beliefs.

 

[RedBelly]

RedBelly, thats racism. Plain and simple. Your talking about a throwback to the days of segregation. We have these laws so that everyone has a fair shot at living and succeeding in this country.

Yes, there are a lot of junk law suits, but in almost all cases, a lawyer is the only option we as citizens have when we are in need of legal help.

This has nothing to do with race, only the rights of a private business. I feel the same about the pilots who sued United back in the 1990's because they said they weren't hired because of their eyesight. I never brought up race... I choose to hold everyone to the same standard.

 

[brainhurts]

Hey Sir Humpalot.
I have some ideas for you and Flyer 1014 or other Muslims who want to help.
1. Organize yourselves and go to the CIA/FBI and demand that they take you as "reserve interperters".
2. Organize a non religious muslim group (I know I know) that states its purpose is to seperate the religion, and work on the problems in the Islamic world. You could name it "Were Muslim Americans that are unsure of what to do but lets get together to stop this bull$hit group". Denounce Osama and list the Mad Mullas that should not be followed.
-- Make one of your requirements to stop pointing out how much America sucks. We know we have problems but we are tired of you complaining about policies that "your" ex country men have forced us to take. Good or bad, we are between a rock and a hard place and whatever we do will have negative consequences.
3. Argue with your relatives when they show the slightest sympathy for terrorists.
4. Make the Israel question a political question, not a religious question.
5. Forget the Crusades. Lets call it a tie--not a do over.

Anyone can feel free to add more. Make them real because most of the muslims on this thread seem engaged.

 

[SWA/FO]

Hey Sir Humpalot.
I have some ideas for you and Flyer 1014 or other Muslims who want to help.
1. Organize yourselves and go to the CIA/FBI and demand that they take you as "reserve interperters".
2. Organize a non religious muslim group (I know I know) that states its purpose is to seperate the religion, and work on the problems in the Islamic world. You could name it "Were Muslim Americans that are unsure of what to do but lets get together to stop this bull$hit group". Denounce Osama and list the Mad Mullas that should not be followed.

6. Then stop sending the SWA/FO private messages about muslims....and calling him names. OK flyer1015....or should I type that in arabic?

 

[Flyer1015]

Hey Sir Humpalot.
I have some ideas for you and Flyer 1014 or other Muslims who want to help.
1. Organize yourselves and go to the CIA/FBI and demand that they take you as "reserve interperters".
2. Organize a non religious muslim group (I know I know) that states its purpose is to seperate the religion, and work on the problems in the Islamic world. You could name it "Were Muslim Americans that are unsure of what to do but lets get together to stop this bull$hit group". Denounce Osama and list the Mad Mullas that should not be followed.
-- Make one of your requirements to stop pointing out how much America sucks. We know we have problems but we are tired of you complaining about policies that "your" ex country men have forced us to take. Good or bad, we are between a rock and a hard place and whatever we do will have negative consequences.
3. Argue with your relatives when they show the slightest sympathy for terrorists.
4. Make the Israel question a political question, not a religious question.
5. Forget the Crusades. Lets call it a tie--not a do over.

Anyone can feel free to add more. Make them real because most of the muslims on this thread seem engaged.

Now I'm labeled a Muslim simply because I am defending the good muslims in the world? Thanks !

Even if I was one, work as a reserve interpreter?! What? That implies I know a foreign language to begin with. I do have some american muslim friends, and half only speak English.

No one I personally know has ever sympathesized with the terrorists.

Israel a political question, not a religious question? Not sure where you're going with that. But zionism is 100% political, it has noting to do with establishing a jewish state (that doesn't sound religious at all). Yah right!

 

[Flyer1015]

6. Then stop sending the SWA/FO private messages about muslims....and calling him names. OK flyer1015....or should I type that in arabic?

I sent you one PM, and I will respond to yours later today.

Type it in Arabic if you know it, I don't know Arabic, but if you can and want to, go for it !

 

[xpdriver]

Man starvingredtail,

Boy have you gone off the deep end with the koolaid. Give me a break... That actually sounds gay...

Thank you,They must make cool-aid over there. I have never seen some many people trust MGMT in my life....TIME WILL TELL

 

[Irishav8r]

Faisal is a great guy. I had the privledge of flying with him at ACA right after 9/11 and I assure you that he was as devistated as anyone else at the time. I am deeply saddened by the response on this board regarding ethnicity or how he had training issues. This is all not even the point. The point is. His background check was complete. He had received all of the official,"Welcome to the family" e-mails and was ready to go to class the next day. He had turned down another job offer, who by the way was required to do all of the PRIA checks as well, and committed himself to Jblue. This to me isn't about Jblue as a company. I admire their product and have many friends over there and I know that the great majority of you guys are top notch. All I have to say is that Faisal is also Top Notch! If the roles were reversed, I can't say that I wouldn't have done exactly what Faisal is doing. Not to teach Jblue a lesson, but to stand up for his rights as an American Citizen. He would have done nothing but Raise the quality of people at the airline as his concerns have always focused on safety and his great personality and ability to establish lasting relationships with the people he works with. Unfortunately, for Jblues sake, this is the only forum (The Legal One) where Faisal can stand up for himself and people have to listen to his greivances.

 

[IB6 UB9]

Faisal is a great guy. I had the privledge of flying with him at ACA right after 9/11 and I assure you that he was as devistated as anyone else at the time. I am deeply saddened by the response on this board regarding ethnicity or how he had training issues. This is all not even the point. The point is. His background check was complete. He had received all of the official,"Welcome to the family" e-mails and was ready to go to class the next day. He had turned down another job offer, who by the way was required to do all of the PRIA checks as well, and committed himself to Jblue. This to me isn't about Jblue as a company. I admire their product and have many friends over there and I know that the great majority of you guys are top notch. All I have to say is that Faisal is also Top Notch! If the roles were reversed, I can't say that I wouldn't have done exactly what Faisal is doing. Not to teach Jblue a lesson, but to stand up for his rights as an American Citizen. He would have done nothing but Raise the quality of people at the airline as his concerns have always focused on safety and his great personality and ability to establish lasting relationships with the people he works with. Unfortunately, for Jblues sake, this is the only forum (The Legal One) where Faisal can stand up for himself and people have to listen to his greivances.

Am I missing something here? Where has it been established that JetBlue didn't hire him because of his race? For every person that gets denied employment there is someone that claims "He would have done nothing but Raise the quality of people at the airline as his concerns have always focused on safety and his great personality and ability to establish lasting relationships with the people he works with". To all of you who worked with this guy that support him, I am sure you have good reason. That doesn't mean he was denied employment because of his race.

 

[da90drivr]

who was the other employer that he turned down?

 

[Irishav8r]

I support him and his claim. I just don't like the blind racist B.S. posted on here. I understand that America's enemy right now are radical, muslim extremist, but he is not one of them. The courts will sort it out as should be the case. Its called "Equal opportunity employment" Otherwise it may as well be Manzanar....

 

[FN FAL]

Its called "Equal opportunity employment"

Well, you know what they say, "If a woman can do it, it's not a man's job!"

 

[Irishav8r]

who was the other employer that he turned down?

I'm sorry, but I won't say here. Which could mean to you that I am a liar or that I respect Faisal enough to know that he wouldn't appreciate me saying.

 

[Indy refugee]

Faisal may have had a problem in training in the rj at ACA, Indy. So did a lot of people who now work at JB. This guy is a stand up guy who has been in this country for 33 years. I don't know all of the details but I think what JB did was wrong.

He had problems during the kinder gentler-era at Indy. Not the Sam and Mac show of years past. What was Sam's last name?????

 

[Irishav8r]

Am I missing something here? Where has it been established that JetBlue didn't hire him because of his race? For every person that gets denied employment there is someone that claims "He would have done nothing but Raise the quality of people at the airline as his concerns have always focused on safety and his great personality and ability to establish lasting relationships with the people he works with". To all of you who worked with this guy that support him, I am sure you have good reason. That doesn't mean he was denied employment because of his race.

Please understand Sir/Mam, I am not bashing Jblue. I just think that there has been a very serious mistake here. Someone at Jblue said things to him via e-mail and telephone that has led him to this course; for no other reason to hold someone accountable and to clear his very good name. I completely understand that this is a public forum and I cannot control the postings of individuals saying offensive things but I am not going to not defend my friend. The facts will either come out or they won't but I believe in him and what he has personally told me regarding this and I will leave it at that....Respectfully...

 

[Indy refugee]

I support him and his claim. I just don't like the blind racist B.S. posted on here. I understand that America's enemy right now are radical, muslim extremist, but he is not one of them. The courts will sort it out as should be the case. Its called "Equal opportunity employment" Otherwise it may as well be Manzanar....

I know Faisal as well, and only mentioned the training issues because it showed me that Faisal see the world through different glasses. I would never argue for not hiring him based on his race or religion. Nor would I do so on te basis of a single training issue. Having said that, I suspect that something in this story is not complete. I could speculate on what it is but I don't know.

 

[Amish RakeFight]

Maybe they made the right decision.

 

[Irishav8r]

He had problems during the kinder gentler-era at Indy. Not the Sam and Mac show of years past. What was Sam's last name?????

I don't quite understand the relevence....... Is this to suggest a pattern of behavior? If so why didn't he file a lawsuit against Indy? I just think this is much bigger than a pissing contest from the Training department at IA...Besides I flew with him there. There was not a great deal of what I would say,"Bad Pilots" but even those I can think of, he is certainly not one of them.

 

[Irishav8r]

I know Faisal as well, and only mentioned the training issues because it showed me that Faisal see the world through different glasses. I would never argue for not hiring him based on his race or religion. Nor would I do so on te basis of a single training issue. Having said that, I suspect that something in this story is not complete. I could speculate on what it is but I don't know.

I understand, enough said.

 

[dashtrash]

I was born a muslim.......As stated previously, our bias support of Israel has to stop.
quote]

You just showed your hand. It's 1933 all over again. My friend....Israel is the only free nation in the middle east. It's not perfect. But it's OUR (yours and mine) friend. It's interesting to note that Israel could wipe out every country around them. They choose not to. Yet, every muslim around them would not hesitate to nuke them off the planet if they could.

You bet I'm biased!

 

[ShamH85]

Hey Sir Humpalot.
I have some ideas for you and Flyer 1014 or other Muslims who want to help.
1. Organize yourselves and go to the CIA/FBI and demand that they take you as "reserve interperters".
2. Organize a non religious muslim group (I know I know) that states its purpose is to seperate the religion, and work on the problems in the Islamic world. You could name it "Were Muslim Americans that are unsure of what to do but lets get together to stop this bull$hit group". Denounce Osama and list the Mad Mullas that should not be followed.
-- Make one of your requirements to stop pointing out how much America sucks. We know we have problems but we are tired of you complaining about policies that "your" ex country men have forced us to take. Good or bad, we are between a rock and a hard place and whatever we do will have negative consequences.
3. Argue with your relatives when they show the slightest sympathy for terrorists.
4. Make the Israel question a political question, not a religious question.
5. Forget the Crusades. Lets call it a tie--not a do over.

Anyone can feel free to add more. Make them real because most of the muslims on this thread seem engaged.

There are many Arab-Americans in America that are doing that JackASS! The FBI/CIA pay healthy bonuses for translators and many American muslims do help on investigations on shady characters since this is our country and home also. My relatives don't argue much against America besides the blind support for Israeli war crimes...
Try Arab American Professionals Network or the American Arab Chamber of Commerce or Muslims for America they would help.