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hobbsmeter

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I posted similar to this on the Options board but thought I'd try here also...
Any ex-Mesaba pilots out there who'd be willing to walk in my resume to Eric for me? Actually any pilot with Options will do, doesn't have to be former XJ. I'm about to get furloughed AGAIN and I've been trying to get on with FO for a while now with no luck. I'm hoping that someone might be able to help me out.
Thanks for reading this :)
 
Be careful what you wish for. The company will try to push you over to Flex where they have no protection(CBA). The FAA has expressed their concern over the high rate of first time failures. Most get retrained but some get sent back to Options with the pink slip in their PRIA records. Just a heads up.
 
Be careful what you wish for. The company will try to push you over to Flex where they have no protection(CBA). The FAA has expressed their concern over the high rate of first time failures. Most get retrained but some get sent back to Options with the pink slip in their PRIA records. Just a heads up.

And now who's spreading fertilizer like a farmer...

The pass rate of new hires at FJ was beyond great until they started hiring Options pilots.

New hires off the street haven't had their senses dulled by decades of "contract training" and waived maneuvers, they'll do just fine.

And who at the FAA has expressed anything? Any proof, anything at all? Nope, just more crap being spread by pilots with an agenda.
 
And who at the FAA has expressed anything? Any proof, anything at all? Nope, just more crap being spread by pilots with an agenda.

Our POI does talk to our training dept.
 
And who at the FAA has expressed anything? Any proof, anything at all? Nope, just more crap being spread by pilots with an agenda.

Our POI does talk to our training dept.

I believe that's the same POI that observed the FJ training and found no problems at all.

I'm sure all those "check rides" in the airplane have made them into the pilots they are.

The schedule is: ground School, systems integration, 4 or 5 sims, a practice check, and a check ride. What is so hard about that. Why does it take some guys 8 sims to get ready? More over, why is it after 6 months of flying the plane they come back and choke?

The really interesting question is, how is it after all the training and still not passing a check ride, they are able to slide back into the left seat at FO and fly like nothing has happened at all?

But all will be better when we're just 1 big dysfunctional family.
 
The training and checks were in accordance with the PTS guidelines. The same ride is given to the Options guys that the FJ have been getting since day 1.

We'll see how well the group of CL30 guys do.
 
This is the third thread you've dug up that is over a decade old.

That's UB's shtik. Usually he plays his one trick over in the Majors section. Must be fished out over there, so he decided to see what's biting over here.
 
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Ok luckydog, or should I say Sky God, how about this?

The Flex training department that uses FlexJet pilots instead of neutral third party instructors is throwing a tantrum about the fact that Options pilots are coming over to Flex and doing everything they can to fail the Options pilots. Maybe they aren't as good as you, General Yeager, but then again maybe someone on the Flex side of this equation has an agenda that doesn't include fair check rides conducted according to the PTS. (And BTW, its REALLY easy to clean up your act when the FAA sits in on a checkride. Its not like the instructor doesn't know they're there!)

A little advice for you: Park the sanctimony. The Flight Options pilots didn't do this to you. Bombardier wanted to divest themselves of their fractional operation and DAC took advantage of a business opportunity. You are eventually going to have to play with the kids in the new sandbox you find yourself in and your success or failure is entirely up to you.
 
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