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kmox29 said:
Using this logic, it should be perfectly acceptable to you for pilots willing to work for half your wage to put you out of a job. After all, just because YOU think YOU should be paid a professional wage doesn't make YOU right.

You are correct. Whatever the offered wage for any job, I have the freedom to choose whether or not to work that job. Is that right? Or is that wrong? It is what it is.
 
Qwertyuiop said:
You are correct. Whatever the offered wage for any job, I have the freedom to choose whether or not to work that job. Is that right? Or is that wrong? It is what it is.

You are correct my friend we all love our freedom in this country. People scream and complain when their freedom or rights are violated. Yet if you CHOOSE to do something that the union or some other pilot group doesnt like they try to harass you and violate your privacy/freedom to choose. It truly is what it is. It is a sad reality but its the truth. I wish everyone would stand up and stand together so we could keep what we have. Unfortunately we live in a free market and we are controlled by supply and demand. There are too many pilots and not enough jobs right now.
 
What about all the Saab captains for January who are only crediting 75hrs when they are use to 90hrs. Should they not pick up open time to get their income back to the 90hrs? This $hithole company is going to furlough people regardless of who picks up opentime. There could be 10000hrs of open time and they would still furlough because that is part of their little scare tactic game they play. And it also costs the company 150% if somebody picks up opentime. It costs them ZERO if they give it to a reserve. So picking up open time actually screws the company a little bit more.
 
It matters not whether a pilot picks up open time or does not. They are going to staff how they want to. Special Ed and Workman are not going to sit in the back office at Pan Am and say: "I bet 10 percent of Saab pilots will pick up open time in MEM. Let's build schedules accordingly."

The furloughs/downgrades are here to stay.
 
Kmox, what's the difference between picking up an actual trip or picking up a reserve day?
Does that mean your reserve days are done now too?
 
I think that all of us at all the regionals should not pick up open time period. This will create havoc at crew scheduling departments all over the country. This will also send the message that pilots are an important part of the puzzle and that they need to treat us such and hire adequate numbers.

But the kicker would be if when they went out to recruit people that they wouldn't be able to find as many as they needed. Why? Because war has been declared on pilots and many potential candidates are staying away. Not to mention all the ones leaving the industry. This would hit their pockets and sometimes that's the only negotiating they understand.
Just my opinion.......and hope
 
W&BWiz said:
Kmox, what's the difference between picking up an actual trip or picking up a reserve day?
Does that mean your reserve days are done now too?

Yes. Thank you for asking.
 
I understand the point you are trying to make, but if I get furloughed, and you need extra money to support your family, by all means take the open time. The only time they are going to hire more is after exhausting all reserves and junior-mans, and you picking up a trip here, and a trip there, isn't going to change that.
 

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