One of many ALPA screw ups

[Rez O. Lewshun]

I wonder what the book on USAPA will be called......

Flying the _________?

Regardless, the PATCO strike but a very bad a bile taste in the mouths of gov't and the public. Throw on the illegal APA sickout and tolerance for disruptive union action, legal or not is extremely low.

In fact, a pilot has a better chance of grabbing FA booby and avoiding the companies zero tolerence harrassment policy than a union does of the public and gov't tolerating a job action...

So here is to you PATCO and APA....

 

[PCL_128]

I wonder what the book on USAPA will be called......

Books are rarely written about abject failures.

 

[stlflyguy]

Unions need to support Unions.

Marty

My union, ALPA, supported another union, APA. I'm on the street because of it. With support like that...

stlflyguy

 

[weasel_lips]

Books are rarely written about abject failures.

Not true. There is a book about ALPA.

 

[Ocity]

The USAPA book will be called:

"Flying the Scabby skies...lessons in career failure"

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

Not true. There is a book about ALPA.

Hopkins wrote all three.. he writes about ALPA's failures.... ALPA has failed in the past, present, and future... just like people. In fact... someone told me that people are in ALPA.....

 

[Tejas-Jet]

ALPA probably could've done more to support them...

ALPA did...they told all their members to ask for full route clearances when getting a clearance....and-d-d-d-d...refuse to accept visual approaches...Wooooo...probably scared President Reagan.<eyes rolling>

I remember the then ALPA President on "Good Morning America" trying ( stammering and stuttering) to explain a "By the book" operation to the reporter asking...

..."But don't Airline Pilots always fly by the book?"

Gosh, that was funny...

 

[Max Powers]

There's quite a bit written on this very topic in "Flying the Line II." Of course as is typical for most flightinfo ALPA bashers who probably only get their information from flightinfo.com, the subject was a bit more complicated than you let on, and in fact O'Donnell (I think it was him at the time, correct me if I'm wrong) tried to help out PATCO through his connections at the White House but unfortunately was unsuccessful. In fact, I think the author of the above mentioned book states that most ALPA pilots WERE NOT in support of the PATCO strike, so O'Donnell was walking a fine line between the pilots he represented and the damage such a strike might cause to our profession at the time. He knew that if the ATC strike went on, that ATC capacity restrictions could cause airlines further financial damage and therefore hurt his pilots through furloughs. Remember, the economy in the early 80's wasn't exactly going gangbusters. But he also knew that the pilots he represented didn't support the PATCO strike. So what is an ALPA leader to do?

Again, it's a bit more complicated then you let on. Perish the thought, but perhaps you could crack open a book on the topic and get some more factual information? In fact, if you were to read Flying the Line II, you could find plenty of more stuff to bash ALPA about, and perhaps you could start a new ALPA bashing thread based on more factual information? Your statement about ALPA not having any levarage concering the PATCO strike is completely untrue.

is you a scab?

 

[Ocity]

is you a scab?

Is you Ali G?

 

[PCL_128]

is you a scab?

He is not.

 

[Rez O. Lewshun]

is you a scab?

No he is not. The contrary... he is dedicated to the profession and his fellow pilots...