OMG! ROFLMAO! "Management by TRUST" by Kenn Ricci

[Ultra Grump]

...because the BBJs were such big sellers, and the rest of the fleet is mostly all still so "new"

Relevance is apparently overrated in the VOR household.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Relevance is apparently overrated in the VOR household.

Would that, by chance, be the same relevance that causes you and NJW to turn every clearly titled thread into one about NJs?

 

[gunfyter]

VOR,

Who turned this thread to be about NJ?

 

[netjetwife]

... WORSE YET, the NJ's guys dumped IBT perhaps so we won't be the same union, so their BIGGER group will have no qualms about stapling the entire flops group to the bottom. .....

Get the facts straight. GF is right. This is the false accusation that I responded to. My husband is one of those who led the Independence movement and I know exactly why my family gave up (and are still giving) so much of our personal time to form an in-house union/association. It is for the reasons I explained and I find this absurdly paranoid suggestion insulting to the NJ pilotgroup who only wished to have complete control over their destiny and their money. Posters seeking to start ugly rumors shouldn't be surprised when those in the know set the record straight. NJW

 

[B19 Flyer]

Get the facts straight. GF is right. This is the false accusation that I responded to. My husband is one of those who led the Independence movement and I know exactly why my family gave up (and are still giving) so much of our personal time to form an in-house union/association. It is for the reasons I explained and I find this absurdly paranoid suggestion insulting to the NJ pilotgroup who only wished to have complete control over their destiny and their money. Posters seeking to start ugly rumors shouldn't be surprised when those in the know set the record straight. NJW

She should know.. remember all that inside information that she has because the union doesn't have any kind of confidentiality rules with thier membership? ​

She is not a union member, she does not work for NJ, yet SHE is going to set the record straight. :laugh:​

 

[glasspilot]

B19, if the First Lady told me that the President was planning to invade some country in the next two weeks I'd believe her.

You can agree or disagree if NJW's husband should talk to her or not about union stuff, but the fact is he does. Right or wrong, he does.

So...as a result she has an opinion. She decides to post that opinion here. It's a free country. I do believe each and every pilot and poster like you know that and as such there is little conflict. My point is there is little deception going on. Hell, her name is NETJETWIFE. That says it all. She is very upfront about her position.

If you're mad at her husband for talking to her then maybe you could ask her nicely for her husbands cell number and you could call him and complain.

 

[netjetwife]

Glass, I post only general information which is available to NJ pilots and spouses who follow Union issues closely. I have signed a confidentiality agreement which I honor. If you'll notice, I don't break news here. I wait until the pilots discuss things first. I'm always upfront (sticking only to topics I can talk about) and I have a public reputation for being honest. Thanks for noticing...
NJW

 

[Galaxy]

To get back on track..

I don't care what books the guy writes. All we need from him is a quick negotiation to a industry standard contract and put everything in writing. Then the guy can sit in CGF and make cartoon for all I care.

Oh yea-and to keep up with the attitude of everything is about NJ.
I would like to thank again all the hard working NJ pilots for all the help we have received from you. We would not be anywhere close without your help.

 

[B19 Flyer]

B19, if the First Lady told me that the President was planning to invade some country in the next two weeks I'd believe her.

You can agree or disagree if NJW's husband should talk to her or not about union stuff, but the fact is he does. Right or wrong, he does.

So...as a result she has an opinion. She decides to post that opinion here. It's a free country. I do believe each and every pilot and poster like you know that and as such there is little conflict. My point is there is little deception going on. Hell, her name is NETJETWIFE. That says it all. She is very upfront about her position.

If you're mad at her husband for talking to her then maybe you could ask her nicely for her husbands cell number and you could call him and complain.

I'll repeat myself again.

Is SHE the one that should be setting people straight as a non-employee or union member of Netjets?

All of her information is second hand, and it's clear that there is only one place it could be coming from.

When she posts those radical opinions, which of course she's entitled to, are they hers or her husbands?

I would think If I was a NJ union member, I'd be concerned a non-union member is "setting the record straight."

 

[netjetwife]

Galaxy, I'm sure your gracious thanks will be appreciated by all the NJ folks who read your post. Nicely done! When you guys have a worthy CBA in place, many of your frac peers will be cheering too. Pulling up the bar is the right thing to do. Kudos to the Options pilots! NJW

 

[Publishers]

My question is not are there additional pilots back, but, are there additional aircraft coming into the program and back on line. What marketing program has he come up with to compete with the fracs and with the quasi companies like XO?

 

[gunfyter]

I think I saw there were Embraer Orders. Maybe FLOPS will become the Embraer frac similar to CS and FLEX.

 

[Voice Of Reason]

Is it possible to craft a scope that will survive through:
- a company that has a bigger (and anti-union) group of pilots acquires or is acquired by Flops?
- a company that has a bigger (DIFFERENT union) pilot group that acquires or is acquired by Flops (and may staple...what if THEY have an iron clad scope clause)?
-Flops selling off the operation in parts
-Flops turning the operation into something other than fractional (charter, lease, managed, new variation of operating not yet named that KR will again "invent")?
-Contract pilots flooding the operation
????
Just a few things to think about

BTW...How many pilots does XO Jet have? Anyone? Don't be surprised if it's a Flops2 started to again bust the union and eventually phase out the Flops name that's been sullied....I hear they're paid and treated pretty well...Sound familiar?

 

[Fozzy]

NJW is free to say what she wants, I have no problem with it.

Especially because she keeps pissing you off.

 

[FLSTCI]

Honest to God...

B19, if your and NJW's sexes were reversed, I'd conclude that you had the worst case of penis envy known to psychoanalysis. You've beat the whole "who is she to be talking?" thing to death. Give it a rest already.