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The government let DL take on the Us slots in LGA. DL is the biggest carrier at both airports. If I am UAL I point right to DL and cry foul on any attempt to stop a transaction.

When DL and LCC did that slot swap last year Nobody cried fowl, not AA not UAL.

It is my belief that that there is a plan in place for ferther mergers or slot swaps we just don't know about it yet.
 
Whom ever gets bought next will most likely not get integrated, only parted out to make it look legal in the eyes of the government. Dark skies ahead for the little and the boutique carriers.
Obviously you know nothing about merger law, and even less about how the smaller airlines operate & make profits.

HAL
 
When DL and LCC did that slot swap last year Nobody cried fowl, not AA not UAL.

It is my belief that that there is a plan in place for ferther mergers or slot swaps we just don't know about it yet.

It doesn't really matter who cries fowl as long as the DOJ is happy.
 
AA HAL next as the news is reporting the new mega carrier is deficient in Asia and will need to focus in that area. Nothing easier than to nab HAL and finish the puzzle.

sWa can't compete in that bidding war. Swa will probably go for Jblue, securing the East coast, and then will go to code share to bring the international market to the swa domestic market.
 
B6 and VX, new name Virgin Blue :D

I'd like to see that purely from an integration standpoint. Fleet, route, onboard product (JB is moving towards VX already).

The tough question would be if the combined entity would have enough power to really compete on the west coast and overcome the problems VX is facing now.

The west coast market is so fragmented and needs to be fixed.

Again my predictions:

DL+AS (within the next 1-3yrs)
B6+VX (2-5 years)
HA+UA(3-6 years)
AA+(B6+VX) [probably 5-8years]
 
Obviously you know nothing about merger law, and even less about how the smaller airlines operate & make profits.

HAL


That's for sure. Seems he knows even less about Hawaiian. Any business transaction concerning them would be shot down if it had the potential of undermining what HA already has planned for the State. The possibility of someone buying AK for parts is equally ridiculous.
 
That's for sure. Seems he knows even less about Hawaiian. Any business transaction concerning them would be shot down if it had the potential of undermining what HA already has planned for the State. The possibility of someone buying AK for parts is equally ridiculous.

Ah, I don't know about that. Now that Inowye is gone, there is less political clout in DC, and that is where it would be decided. Money talks, and political clout via lobbyists influence people. I read once that "a possible" (:) ) lobbyist for a certain Southern Airline is Trent Lott, former senior Senator from Mississippi. Do you think he knows anyone in the current Congress? I bet he does. Lott told Parker when he ran the Senate Aviation Committee at the hearing about a USAir takeover of DL during the BK that "looks like the Southern Belle doesn't want a dance partner", and at that point supposedly John McCain walked out of the hearing, leaving Parker (both from AZ) sitting there. Lott would be an asset if he lobbied for a "certain" airline.

And, I think the HAL/DL merger might work. Same fleet, and extra Hawaii routes that DL doesn't currently do. Just a guess, but I can see it happening. You never know. ;)


Bye Bye---General Lee
 
That's for sure. Seems he knows even less about Hawaiian. Any business transaction concerning them would be shot down if it had the potential of undermining what HA already has planned for the State. The possibility of someone buying AK for parts is equally ridiculous.

I hope not, but I think you are over-estimating the political clout of Hawaii. I think Inouye could get a lot of things done because of his seniority which gave him important positions on important committees. This is no longer true, the importance of this fact cannot be understated.

You are also implying by your statement that the state of Georgia does not have any significant political clout of it's own which will be working against you which I don't think you REALLY think.

Delta will have the advantage. To get the US government to stop Delta from buying Hawaiian will literally take an Act of Congress, as there is no legal reason that I can see for the federal government to intervene. Hawaiian will have to convince someone to pass a new law, or for someone at the justice department to really go out on a limb. Delta will just have to convince congress to do nothing...which really shouldn't be too hard in this political environment.

That all being said...I don't think HA will be bought by anyone in the near future, but if someone wants HA, and HA stockholders agree to be sold, I don't think there is anyone in any government that will have both the ability AND the desire to stop it. (although there will be plenty with one or the other)
 
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I'm thinking its a good thing nobody wants to acquire my airline :) (NKS)

It's a very good thing. I think NK will be reaping some serious benefits while everyone else plays merger roulette.
 
SWA/HA - Gives SWA the far east and with AAI they have the carrib and central america.

So SWA abandons all that has made them different to acquire a mostly international airline that flies Airbi and 717's?

The far east and SWA? What part of their business model makes you think they are looking to expand in Japan / China. I can see it now, everyone in Narita with their boarding letters at the crack of dawn to get an "A" and fly from Tokyo to HNL with a soda and pretzels.

Anything is possible, but this would be the largest deprture from the SWA business model in history!
LUV
 

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