Pendulous Vein
BRINGING PSYCHEDELIA HOME
- Joined
- Dec 1, 2003
- Posts
- 21
Welcome to Flightinfo.com
- Register now and join the discussion
- Friendliest aviation Ccmmunity on the web
- Modern site for PC's, Phones, Tablets - no 3rd party apps required
- Ask questions, help others, promote aviation
- Share the passion for aviation
- Invite everyone to Flightinfo.com and let's have fun
OK.......1900D pilots? Hello?????
- Thread starter Pendulous Vein
- Start date
Welcome to Flightinfo.com
- Register now and join the discussion
- Modern secure site, no 3rd party apps required
- Invite your friends
- Share the passion of aviation
- Friendliest aviation community on the web
8HourPilot
Stormtracker Accucast!!!
- Joined
- Jul 11, 2003
- Posts
- 753
The Beech, ahhhhh..... the memories.
Three plus years in her and loved almost every minute. Lowsy aircraft for the passengers though, it usually scares them to death. I have some great stories about some of the stupid things passengers have done while we were flying but I'll spare you the reading.
Great flying a/c without AP. Never had one but usually not a problem. I came from aircraft that usually didn't have an AP anyway so I never missed having one.
You'll learn to be a real pilot now. The EFIS is straight forward and the wx radar worked great, you'll need it punching through the weather in the lower altitudes.
Good set of headsets a must, but she's a blast to fly, way more power than you'll probably ever need.
Hardest system to learn? Maybe environmental (one pack plus one air conditioner made by GM) you'll see what I mean.
Props are also a little comlex (flight idle pitch stop, ground fine pitch stop, reverse pitch stop, blah blah blah)
Watch that ground fine, if mx can't tune it right it may d a m n near kill you on landing some day. You'll see.
Three plus years in her and loved almost every minute. Lowsy aircraft for the passengers though, it usually scares them to death. I have some great stories about some of the stupid things passengers have done while we were flying but I'll spare you the reading.
Great flying a/c without AP. Never had one but usually not a problem. I came from aircraft that usually didn't have an AP anyway so I never missed having one.
You'll learn to be a real pilot now. The EFIS is straight forward and the wx radar worked great, you'll need it punching through the weather in the lower altitudes.
Good set of headsets a must, but she's a blast to fly, way more power than you'll probably ever need.
Hardest system to learn? Maybe environmental (one pack plus one air conditioner made by GM) you'll see what I mean.
Props are also a little comlex (flight idle pitch stop, ground fine pitch stop, reverse pitch stop, blah blah blah)
Watch that ground fine, if mx can't tune it right it may d a m n near kill you on landing some day. You'll see.
Hardest thing about the 1900?
Stomping your foot hard enough on the V1 cut in the sim. Stamp hard and it's a non-event. Pansy it and you get yourself in trouble. Other than that the plane is really an easy aircraft to learn and get to know.
I'd recommend that you study some basic engine systems if all you have flown is pistons. Turbines are a totally different beast than recips, not harder, just very different. There are lots of schematics and material out there that you can find, it would help to have a basic familiarity with the basic principles (and -67's in particular). It depends on the instructor you get, but ability to actually teach isn't a skill required to be a ground instructor. There are good ones and really bad ones. If you are unlucky enough to get a really bad one, a basic familiarity with how the system works will keep the Greek from being totally unintelligible.
Stomping your foot hard enough on the V1 cut in the sim. Stamp hard and it's a non-event. Pansy it and you get yourself in trouble. Other than that the plane is really an easy aircraft to learn and get to know.
I'd recommend that you study some basic engine systems if all you have flown is pistons. Turbines are a totally different beast than recips, not harder, just very different. There are lots of schematics and material out there that you can find, it would help to have a basic familiarity with the basic principles (and -67's in particular). It depends on the instructor you get, but ability to actually teach isn't a skill required to be a ground instructor. There are good ones and really bad ones. If you are unlucky enough to get a really bad one, a basic familiarity with how the system works will keep the Greek from being totally unintelligible.
I.P. Freley
I like people food
- Joined
- Dec 26, 2001
- Posts
- 2,038
I'll second the environmental system. It's hard mostly because there is rampant confusion about how it actually WORKS... Esp. the VCM. Like... Where does it get the air that it cools, and how is it cooled, and then where does that cold air go!?
Anyway, in practice it works great. You can get a serious Slurpee headache in the cockpit if you aim that eyeball vent at the top of your head in a hot airplane!
Now the pressurization system... That was the worst part, at least in practice. Go ahead, just forget to reset it for landing elevation... And notice it when you're in the middle of a visual! LOL!!
Anyway, in practice it works great. You can get a serious Slurpee headache in the cockpit if you aim that eyeball vent at the top of your head in a hot airplane!
Now the pressurization system... That was the worst part, at least in practice. Go ahead, just forget to reset it for landing elevation... And notice it when you're in the middle of a visual! LOL!!
8HourPilot
Stormtracker Accucast!!!
- Joined
- Jul 11, 2003
- Posts
- 753
Prop Trash
Well-known member
- Joined
- Dec 6, 2001
- Posts
- 185
I think the prop system was the most difficult to understand. Three governors, ground idle, flight idle, low pitch stops, ground fine, reverse...its just a lot of stuff.
Since flying the Beech, i've been through ground school for two other aircraft. I couldn't believe how complicated the Beech training was compared to other larger, more complex airplanes. It seems like they want you to know how to take the thing apart and put it back together. Learning useless things like certain tempratures and pressures that normally open or normally closed PRSOVs or through and bypass valves work is just trivia that they want you to commit to memory.
Since flying the Beech, i've been through ground school for two other aircraft. I couldn't believe how complicated the Beech training was compared to other larger, more complex airplanes. It seems like they want you to know how to take the thing apart and put it back together. Learning useless things like certain tempratures and pressures that normally open or normally closed PRSOVs or through and bypass valves work is just trivia that they want you to commit to memory.
chperplt
Registered User
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2001
- Posts
- 4,123
brew3departure
Da Bears...Bears...Bears
- Joined
- Nov 26, 2001
- Posts
- 145
Beech systems...
I'll add my .02 for the propeller system -- lots of linkages, governors and the like as someone above me already said. Hopefully you'll get a good instructor - if you need to supplement things a little bit, try "The Turbine Pilot's Manual" by Greg Brown - there could be several new editions in the past few years - the one I had actually had a picture of the mighty Beech on the cover. It speaks generally, but the section on powerplants was particularly helpful - especially to someone with no prior turbine experience.
Good luck to you!
-brew3
I'll add my .02 for the propeller system -- lots of linkages, governors and the like as someone above me already said. Hopefully you'll get a good instructor - if you need to supplement things a little bit, try "The Turbine Pilot's Manual" by Greg Brown - there could be several new editions in the past few years - the one I had actually had a picture of the mighty Beech on the cover. It speaks generally, but the section on powerplants was particularly helpful - especially to someone with no prior turbine experience.
Good luck to you!
-brew3
Cardinal
Of The Kremlin
- Joined
- Nov 25, 2001
- Posts
- 2,308
CitationLover
Aw, Nuts!
- Joined
- Feb 26, 2003
- Posts
- 3,316
going through a beech 1900d ground school right now i can relate to all these posts. if you can get your hands on a beech manual BEFORE training and read it once you should be fine. try www.b1900.com for an excellent manual.
i'd like to vent about having to know gauge limits to memory. don't you look at these in the cockpit? when would your memory ever need to know these other than an oral? now transient limits are different....
i'd like to vent about having to know gauge limits to memory. don't you look at these in the cockpit? when would your memory ever need to know these other than an oral? now transient limits are different....
jobear
Titanium Necked Bandit
- Joined
- Jan 20, 2002
- Posts
- 786
__________________________________________________
i'd like to vent about having to know gauge limits to memory. don't you look at these in the cockpit? when would your memory ever need to know these other than an oral?
_________________________________________________
The guauge limits are Sytem Limitations for the most part so I would say,Yes it's a good idea to know them. They don't expect you to remember the total range of the guages just the prohibited and caution areas. Hope this helps.
Jobear
i'd like to vent about having to know gauge limits to memory. don't you look at these in the cockpit? when would your memory ever need to know these other than an oral?
_________________________________________________
The guauge limits are Sytem Limitations for the most part so I would say,Yes it's a good idea to know them. They don't expect you to remember the total range of the guages just the prohibited and caution areas. Hope this helps.
Jobear
Pendulous Vein
BRINGING PSYCHEDELIA HOME
- Joined
- Dec 1, 2003
- Posts
- 21
Share this page
Latest resources
-
-
-
-
-
AC 90-89C - Amateur-Built Aircraft and Ultralight Flight Testing HandbookAmateur-Built Aircraft and Ultralight Flight Testing Handbook
- Neal
- Updated:
