oil -- here we go again...

[Doug Parker]

blzr,
What are you a scaremongerer!!?? Doomsdayer!!! You just want to scare people! Oil will never run out!!

Jet

Originally, I thought you were just smoking pole.........now it appears you are smoking crack as well !! What's with the Kerry routine (Flip-flop) ??



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[jetflyer]

Doug Parker,

I've awaken to the light. I found out about abiotic oil and that it's created in the center of the earth. We're never going to run out. I'm a new man now. I'm trying to be more like you. I think I was brainwashed for a while there by the peak oil crazies.

Robert Hirsch of the U.S. government DOE is just a scaremongering crazy predicting that it will take 20 years of intense effort before peak oil to avoid extreme economic hardship. Then he goes on to say that many experts are predicting a near term peak oil!! That would mean I might get a pay cut!! What a crazy retard...
Did you see the Report the DOE came up with under his lead about Peak Oil and how it is going to be the hardest problem Man has ever faced???:
http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf
The DOE is saying we may have like, dude, like a recession or something..... No way it's the new economy!
Here is the speech he gave to CONGRESS on that report:
http://www.tomudall.house.gov/pdf/PeakOilHearingHirschtestimony120705.pdf
What a nutjob telling CONGRESS that PEAK OIL will be the hardest thing that man has ever faced! He obvoiusly hasn't seen my wife when she's mad. I think she could rival this fake peak oil thing!

T.Boone Pickens is just trying to run up the price when he says we're about at peak oil now.
China's CNOOC executive's prediction of 2012 as a peak oil date, is just crazy.
Iranian oil expert Bakhitari's prediction of 2007 as peak oil date is even more crazy.
Matthew Simmons who is a buddy of Bush and Cheney predicting a 2008 peak is just idiotic.

David Goodstein, Caltech Vice provost is just a lunatic predicting Peak Oil before 2010 and these crazies would say the site below written by him is the best EXPLANATION and INTRODUCTION TO PEAK OIL:
http://www.yubanet.com/cgi-bin/artman/exec/view.cgi/8/15426

I'm learning I shouldn't listen to the crazies anymore, and I should listen to educated people like you Doug Parker, that know it all. Why wasn't I listening to your educated, omniscient self earlier???!!! I feel so much better now!!

I've seen the light and it's bright! I'm going out to buy new matching Hummers for me and my wife now, since the oil party will never end!!:beer: Bottoms UP!!

Jet

 

[jetflyer]

The peak oil crazies think they're on a mission to help save the world from hard times, but really they're just scaring people.

The peak oil crazies think they're going to help bring upon a lot more investment and a MANHATTAN project on renewable energy sources, but really they're just scaring people.

I wish these peak oil crazies that think they're going to help save AMERICA, would just shut up and leave us alone. Times are good now. I don't want to know that they're going to change because I have an American Idol episode to watch tonight. I don't have time for the peak oil crazies' prophecies.

Anyways oil is created in the center of the earth and we'll never run out. Duhhh.

Jet

 

[jetflyer]

I almost forgot to mention this Peak Oil crazy Politician. We all know politicians lie!! He's been trying to get congress to start implementing a MANHATTAN PROJECT on ENERGY to reduce our usage of oil. He's a very passionate CRAZY
Roscoe Bartlett, Republican Congressman from Maryland gave this speech to Congress, broadcast on C-SPAN on July 19, 2005 about COMING OIL SUPPLY PROBLEMS(PEAK OIL).
Here is the transcript.:
http://www.xecu.net/thorn/PO/PO-July19-2005.html

April 19th Bartlett gave this speech to congress. This would be a good speech to read if you believed this crazy!,
http://www.bartlett.house.gov/SupportingFiles/documents/energyspeech.pdf

Roscoe Bartlett met with Bush about Peak Oil on June 29th. So Bush, no doubt knows about what these crazies are saying about potential oil supply problems. Here is the press release:
http://www.bartlett.house.gov/latestnews.asp?ARTICLE2900=7308

Sorry those are old speeches by this crazy guy. I don't have any links to the many new crazy prophecies he's been giving congress. He's been speaking to them a lot about this BUNK PEAK OIL THING.

Can you believe they made this crazy guy a politician. Maybe it shouldn't be a surprise!

Jet

 

[Dangerkitty]

Jetflyer,

I have asked you this before and I will ask you again. If you are so scared of peak oil then why in the hell do you fly airplanes?

You have yet to give me a satisfactory answer.

If you could answer that I would appreciate it. Unless of course you are getting your rations and water all together so when the oil well goes dry you can live off of spam and H2O. Dont forget to buy good Mountain Bikes because that will be the only way civilization will be able to get around.

 

[flyerny]

Jetflyer, your posts are so illogical that I feel you have really bad sarcasm or your lack of knowledge about energy is extremely diluted by retarded thinking. Maybe you should spend some time learning about what you are talking about before you come to your crazy conclusions.

Oil does not come from the center of Earth. Go pick up a geology book.

...and I have done some research on the topic...my graduate degree that I am finishing up is in GEOLOGY.

All in all I really hope that you are kidding about all this.

 

[jetflyer]

Danger,
You haven't read anything I've been posting.

Reread my newest posts. I've had an epiphany and have learned the truth.

I've read a lot lately about abiotic oil. I've learned that oil is created in the center of the earth. It's impossible for peak oil to be true now.

I've been bashing the peak oil freaks for their crazy beliefs. They had me fooled for so long, and are just trying to make the price of oil go up and scare people.

It's all a joke.....

Jet

p.s. I bet these peak oil freaks really are getting rations together and buying mountain bikes just to scare their friends!!

 

[Dangerkitty]

Danger,
You haven't read anything I've been posting.

Reread my newest posts. I've had an epiphany and have learned the truth.

I've read a lot lately about abiotic oil. I've learned that oil is created in the center of the earth. It's impossible for peak oil to be true now.

I've been bashing the peak oil freeks for their crazy beliefs. They had me fooled for so long, and are just trying to make the price of oil go up and scare people.

It's all a joke.....

Jet

p.s. I bet these peak oil freeks really are getting rations together and buying mountain bikes just to scare their friends!!

You didn't answer my question.

You can also tone down the sarcasm.

 

[jetflyer]

Why would I get out of aviation?

I love flying planes. It's fun.

Jet

 

[mdf]

Jet,

A think a burning oil well would have made a better avatar:laugh:

 

[jetflyer]

Mdf,

Naaaa, I have to show off the new Hummer I'm getting. You like?

I'm gonna run over the peak oil crazies riding their mountain bikes with it.

Dangerkitty,
Now that I don't believe in peak oil anymore, like you, I'll let you ride shotgun in my Hummer while we go get us some crazies!

Jet

 

[Icelandair]

We are getting gouged at the pump by the fat cat station owners.

 

[jetflyer]

We are getting gouged at the pump by the fat cat station owners.

Exactly. They could charge $1.00 a gallon if they WANTED to.

Jet

 

[Frac Daddy]

Well about to go to work but have to post.

You guys obviously haven't grasped the scope of the problem. Oh well.

READ THE DEPARTMENT OF ENERGY STUDY!!!
http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf

Blzr, you obviously didn't read the Department of Energy report. Obviously.

Yes we are going to have to drill in Alaska. Yes we're going to have to drill off both U.S. coasts including Florida and California. Soccer Moms in their SUV's will be begging oil companies to drill in these areas soon.

We're going to turn coal to oil. We're going to use the oil shale, oil sands, etc.

Conservation will be the best thing possible. We're going to have to find a different way to make pesticides and fertilizers in America besides using fossil fuels. We're going to have to stop making PLASTICS or RECYCLE EVERYTHING. Glass will have to make a major comeback on everything. Etc. etc.

From the Department of Energy report Blzr doesn't want to read:

Decline rates for the worldwide oil production are supposed to be about 3-4% or more. So we'll be losing about 3 million barrels of oil/year from worldwide production. OK SO THE OIL SANDS TOOK CARE OF ONE YEAR'S LOSS by 2017. Too bad peak oil is in the next couple years plus, you know I'm bored.

Blzr you're not stupid. Educate yourself. Oil sands are not oil. They are sand. You have to dig it up, and use natural gas which is about to go into decline in North America or nuclear or coal plants to turn it into oil. Even Canada is building Liquified Natural Gas ports to bring in Natural gas now. We used to think we had an infinite amount of NG.

Coal to oil will be the the most effective measure. Ethanol is a joke and takes more energy to make than it gives. Cellulosic ethanol on the other hand has potential but they don't even have the first full-scale plant built yet and it will replace less than 1% of our oil needs in 10 years.

I could go on and on, but this is where I get bored. There are people like Blzr that will call me a scaremonger, when I'm trying to do a good thing for the world. I'm trying to help everyone's children. We need to all wake up!!

We need to be dumping 10X more money into these projects and drilling in Alaska, making every new car A PLUG-IN HYBRID, Developing NUCLEAR PLANTS all across America, Making COAL-TO-OIL PLANTS which there are NONE right now. ETC. ETC. ETC.

These things should have been done in the 70's. We shouldn't have the coming problem, but we do. We're shortsighted and UNINFORMED.

First we have to realize there's a problem and noone realizes it!!

Blzr, questioning my motives, is ok, but you're wrong. I care about us all more than you think. I am one of hundreds running around trying to wake people up. Bush knows. He's told us we're addicted to oil. He's had meetings with Roscoe Bartlett and Matthew Simmons about peak oil. He's trying to do his part and I wish he'd do more. Roscoe Bartlett, Republican, has spoken in Congress 10+ times now giving speeches shown on C-SPAN. He's scared to death. He's calling for a MANHATTAN PROJECT FOR ENERGY.

BLZR READ THE DOE REPORT. You'll realize it's not going to be as simple as drilling in Alaska and Raping Canada of their oil sands. Unfortunately one day you'll realize that.

I'm getting tired of talking about this. I really am like a broken record lately. I could sit here and dispute this for hours, but I'm going to go on my trip and not even post for a while.

I'll come back after my trip, and people will be posting how we'll be saved by hybrids or hydrogen cars or something. YEa we'll be saved, huhh, huhhh, huhh<---like Beavis. That Jetflyer is just a scaremongerer, yea huhh, huhhh, huhh.

Oh well, think what you want. I just ask you all to educate yourselves. After you educate yourself, educate others.

I unfortunately have learned the scope of the problem and it is frightening. Unfortunately because people are so shortsighted and confident in quick techno-fixes our slow pace to deal with a very scary problem is going to show everyone the scope of the problem in the next couple years.

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf

http://www.netl.doe.gov/publications/others/pdf/Oil_Peaking_NETL.pdf

Good luck,
Jet

Jet, ol' buddy. How you doing? Ethanol has a negative energy balance, huh? I thought you read the Department of Energy's website:

http://www.eere.energy.gov/afdc/altfuel/eth_energy_bal.html

 

[jetflyer]

Frac,

Thanks for that link. But even that site shows that there are conflicting reports on the energy gained from corn ethanol. I wonder which view is correct. Seems like there is a LOT of lobbying dollars that could show through studies that it has a positive energy balance even if it doesn't. I hope that isn't happening.

I really do hope it is positive though, and that they find better ways to make it more positive.

If you notice what I said, I said Cellulosic ethanol has a very nice energy balance. I'm a major supporter of Cellulosic ethanol, but we don't have the plants built yet to break down the corn through cellulosic means.

I hope we get them built soon.

But I don't think it will matter because peak oil is fake and oil comes from the center of the earth so this entire converstion is a waste of time and I need to get back to American Idol that I tivo'd!!

See ya,
Jet

 

[jetflyer]

Sorry to bring this thread back to life.

$69.00/barrel for Light Sweet Crude
My expert analysis:It will be on its way back to $20.00 any day now.

The 700 CLUB with Pat Robertson just had the first of a series of discussions on peak oil. Matthew Simmons, friend of Bush and Cheney, and Republican Congressman from Maryland Roscoe Bartlett were on there discussing coming peak oil and saying we're going to have to live with less oil year after year soon.

They're emphasizing that we hurry our transition to alternative energy sources.

Totally unnecessary.

THE CRAZIES ARE GOING MAD!!! Don't they know we have an infinite amount of oil that is replenished from the center of the Earth??! Scaremongerers!!!

Jet