Obnoxious Pax "Gilligan" Comment Card Turns Hawaiian Plane Around

[727gm]

Weak!

 

[Superbird]

At least he preferred Mary-Anne to Ginger. Good Choice !!!

I dont think the F/A's had the authority to open a sealed Comment Card and may have a little time off themselves. It sounds as if they were a little overzealous. Sorry. The Captain made the best decision he could at the time, I just hope it wasnt influenced a F/A with a chip on her/his shoulder.

The note was pretty comical, but I dont see it as threatening. The guys going on vacation too, account for all of that.

 

[rigger]

Please, for the love of God, do not use a word unless you know what it means. You sound like a moron, the word is LITMUS, a LITMUS test. See below

litmus test
n.1. A test for chemical acidity or basicity using litmus paper.
2. A test that uses a single indicator to prompt a decision: "

AHHHHH yes I know I missed the TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Now to get back to the point that sailed over your head!!!!! Ever notice when a lib hates what you say they call you a name instead of dealing with the point?????

 

[Dan Roman]

At least he preferred Mary-Anne to Ginger. Good Choice !!!

I dont think the F/A's had the authority to open a sealed Comment Card and may have a little time off themselves. It sounds as if they were a little overzealous. Sorry. The Captain made the best decision he could at the time, I just hope it wasnt influenced a F/A with a chip on her/his shoulder.

The note was pretty comical, but I dont see it as threatening. The guys going on vacation too, account for all of that.

Actually, if the guy is acting erratically and hands the F/A a sealed comment card, you better believe he/she should open it and read it. Totally the correct thing to do.

 

[Dan Roman]

AHHHHH yes I know I missed the TTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTTT Now to get back to the point that sailed over your head!!!!! Ever notice when a lib hates what you say they call you a name instead of dealing with the point?????

You mean like Glenn Beck??

 

[MD11Drvr]

Maybe, but try explaining why you continued a flight that the FA's emphatically warned the crew that they had a problem with a passenger and were concerned that he could jeopardize the safety of the passengers. Somehow I don't think saying ''sorry I continued the flight despite warnings from the cabin crew, I think FA's are bit nutty so I decided to continue on anyway" Now compound that if something does happen enroute like the passenger in question gets physical with someone and hurts them. Now you are liable for ignoring the warnings you got and probably in serious trouble with the FAA and the company.

Fortunately, we have some pretty high caliber Flight Attendants at Hawaiian and most are very professional and level headed. So it's highly likely if they are truly concerned, there is probably a real problem going on.

Hey Dan don't miss the point of what I am saying about F/a's in general. I am glad you have a great group at HA, I wish we all did but there is always that 10% or in some cases 20 to 50% that are crazy as hell. I would also hate to try and explain why I turned around to the Chief Pilot on the word of an over reacting melodramatic F/a. I was simply stating it would be a tough call, but not judging the actions of this crew in this situation. Cheers and tail winds to you and yours!

MD11Drvr

 

[crxpilot]

Paging Dan Roman, paging Dan Roman, please meet the other lemmings over by the cliff..........

 

[Dan Roman]

Hey Dan don't miss the point of what I am saying about F/a's in general. I am glad you have a great group at HA, I wish we all did but there is always that 10% or in some cases 20 to 50% that are crazy as hell. I would also hate to try and explain why I turned around to the Chief Pilot on the word of an over reacting melodramatic F/a. I was simply stating it would be a tough call, but not judging the actions of this crew in this situation. Cheers and tail winds to you and yours!

MD11Drvr

I hear you and it's not easy making a point without sounding like you are disagreeing. We do have a few too. As a matter of fact, supporting what you are saying, I had a scenario were one of the FA's thought the pressurization system was faulty and said "numerous" people were feeling it in their ears. I didn't realize that "numerous" included some F/A's when I said perhaps they felt a pressure bump and that the symptoms they felt might be psychosomatic. Well..... I don't think I'm telling you anything you don't know when I say that telling a FA her headache might be influenced by those around her is NOT the thing to do. Anyway, I made a show out of having the mechanic come to the airplane and check it out and as a matter fact, she actually agreed with me the next day.
But you are right, it's a very complicated factor and one with no clearcut guidelines.

 

[Dan Roman]

Paging Dan Roman, paging Dan Roman, please meet the other lemmings over by the cliff..........

Actually, I would say the better use of the lemmings analogy would be someone reading one news article and think they know enough to judge the crews actions.
I guess my explanation of the additional considerations involved with over water flying went over your head but you should understand that a willingness to make a hard decision by a Captain is a very good trait in this business. I really don't understand why some people feel the need to criticize others so quickly rather than listen with an open mind. But thinking you have the whole story by reading one news article is foolish.

 

[say again]

Ygtbfsm!!!!!!