NWALPA's response to it's members.....

[pilotyip]

Remember all union contracts are local in nature.

 

[Muskycat]

Anyway, back to the subject of the thread.

I understand an olive branch was extended to the NWA pilots from the D_MEC, do not have any details. But IMHO LOA19 is not turning out to be very popular. More than a few Delta pilots would prefer a joint contract.

LOA19 is not intended to be a contract extension. This is very important to point out.

It may take a long time to reach a joint contract. Until we reach a joint contract each pilot group will continue to work under their PWA.
LOA19 does nothing more than assure pay increases in addition to the DAL PWA increases if joint negotiations are extensively prolonged.

Our goal at Delta is to have one joint contract created by NWA and DAL together and go forward together under a new PWA.

 

[JoeMerchant]

The relationship between the NWA, PCL, and MSA MECs is not the dysfunctional mess that you're used to between CMR and DALPA. In fact, Captain Wychor has always been very close with the NWA MEC. The MECs share an office in MSP. The lines of communication are always open. You RJDC wankers need to stop trying to speak for the Airlink pilots. Your union terrorism does not appeal to them.

Gee Wally....we can have a great relation like Mesaba/PCL/NWA....Sign me up......

Can't wait to see how that works out for them....

Do you honestly think the NWA MEC is going to look out for the PNCL and Mesaba folks? They are going to look out for number 1....Guess who that is going to be....

I see Wychor has a nice ALPA national job now....These politicians just want to secure a Herndon job before everything falls apart....

How's that Brand Scope coming?

How about the flowthrough?:laugh:

 

[Occam's Razor]

LOA19 is not intended to be a contract extension. This is very important to point out.

It may take a long time to reach a joint contract. Until we reach a joint contract each pilot group will continue to work under their PWA.
LOA19 does nothing more than assure pay increases in addition to the DAL PWA increases if joint negotiations are extensively prolonged.

Let's say, just for yuks...the DAL guys are the one's who choose to prolong the negotiations.

Let's say they choose to complete the LOA membership ratification process, while using all means at their disposal to delay the declaration of a PID by the Executive Council. Then they choose to slow-play the negotiation/arbitration process after that. Such a strategy would, in effect, apply more pre$$ure to the NWA side.

I'm reading the words.

And watching their feet.

If we don't see a near-term engagement with the NWA MEC on the SLI process...we'll know which way their feet are moving.

 

[Muskycat]

Let's say, just for yuks...the DAL guys are the one's who choose to prolong the negotiations.

Let's say they choose to complete the LOA membership ratification process, while using all means at their disposal to delay the declaration of a PID by the Executive Council. Then they choose to slow-play the negotiation/arbitration process after that. Such a strategy would, in effect, apply more pre$$ure to the NWA side.

I'm reading the words.

And watching their feet.

That is a very valid point about us dragging our feet. But keep in mind the raise they're offering is nothing more than 5%, basically inflationary raise.
I'm not so sure DAL MEC is going to get LOA19 passed amongst the pilot group. Not many DAL guys where enthusiastic about the deal.
And as much as we don't want the merger, I don't think there is any way to kill it. Hence the reason it's going forward. Richard and Doug are just puppets who can be fired and replaced.

I have a lot of friends at NWA and would never want to through them under a bus or leave them on the street. We both have to realize we'll be making sacrafices to make it work. Not just onside takes all.

 

[tomgoodman]

Engaged, but not married

If we don't see a near-term engagement with the NWA MEC on the SLI process...we'll know which way their feet are moving.

I wouldn't be surprised if there already is "engagement", at least by phone or e-mail. Management is in a hurry to get the deal approved and closed. A pre-merger joint contract and SLI will help them, and they will pay for this help. If they get it done without such pilot assistance, their wallets will slam shut and they will revert to a cost-control mode. A divided pilot group will then have great difficulty in prying loose any contract improvements at all. Both MECs know this and, while in a delicate political position, are not stupid.