NWA Strike Authorized

[CoATP]

Pilots have voted to walk if Ch 11 imposes contract. What happens to the regionals? How about those on probation?

 

[FDJ2]

Pilots have voted to walk if Ch 11 imposes contract. What happens to the regionals? How about those on probation?

Over 92% voted in favor of a strike, over 90% voted.


AP
Northwest Pilots Authorize Strike
Tuesday February 28, 7:32 pm ET Northwest Pilots Authorize Strike if Airline Carries Out Threatened Pay-Cut and Work-Rule Changes
MINNEAPOLIS (AP) -- The pilots union at Northwest Airlines Corp. said Tuesday that its members have authorized a strike if the carrier imposes its threatened pay-cut and work-rule changes.

More than 92 percent of pilots voted in favor of authorizing a strike, said Wade Blaufuss, spokesman for the Northwest branch of the Air Line Pilots Association. He said more than 90 percent of Northwest's 4,851 eligible pilots voted.

 

[JoeMerchant]

So almost 10% didn't vote, and then almost 10% voted NO. Not very impressive if you ask me, especially from "Cobra" Airlines. The chinks in ALPA's armor continue to show...

 

[FDJ2]

So almost 10% didn't vote, and then almost 10% voted NO. Not very impressive if you ask me, especially from "Cobra" Airlines. The chinks in ALPA's armor continue to show...

Actually it's an incredibly good turn out and sends a strong message. The NWA pilots have drawn a line in the sand. NWA management will now be seeking an extension in order to actually negotiate in good faith. Good for the Red Tails.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Actually it's an incredibly good turn out and sends a strong message. The NWA pilots have drawn a line in the sand. NWA management will now be seeking an extension in order to actually negotiate in good faith. Good for the Red Tails.

Well, no it isn't. 20% not voting yes isn't that impressive for a radical group like the "cobra" NWA pilots. It will be more than 30% of the DAL pilots who don't vote yes. ALPA is having it's roosters come home to roost and most of you are in denial....

 

[81Horse]

"... Northwest pilots voted to authorize their union leaders to
call for a removal of service by a 92.16 percent margin. Over 90 percent of
the pilot group voted (4,413 votes were cast out of an eligible 4,851). ..."

The actual numbers. For those of you who would like to do the math.

The abstention number alone probably underrepresents the pilots who are planning to take early retirements in the next year. Assuming there's an airline to retire from.

 

[FDJ2]

Well, no it isn't. 20% not voting yes isn't that impressive for a radical group like the "cobra" NWA pilots. It will be more than 30% of the DAL pilots who don't vote yes. ALPA is having it's roosters come home to roost and most of you are in denial....

You're assuming that the less than 10% who didn't vote, don't support a strike. You have no idea what their status is, or why they didn't vote, but we do know the result of those who did.

The fact remains that given the circumstances, on the eve of a court decision that could lead to a strike and all that it entails for a company in Chapter11, this was an impressive result.

As far as DAL pilots are concerned, you have no basis for an opinion other than your own prejudice, but not to worry, you'll get your answer soon enough.

 

[bailout]

Its going to be interesting. Write up in the USA Today, that said management is planning to void the contract, and the pilots say they will strike. If they strike, both side agree that Northwest is OVER.

WOW,..

 

[CoATP]

That would be the song .."red tails in the sunset" [sorry - had to]

 

[Lear70]

Well, no it isn't. 20% not voting yes isn't that impressive for a radical group like the "cobra" NWA pilots. It will be more than 30% of the DAL pilots who don't vote yes. ALPA is having it's roosters come home to roost and most of you are in denial....

You need to do some research on an airline before you make ASSumptions.

A 90% turnout and a 92% "YES" vote is a pretty d*mned good show of solidarity considering the top 30% of the airline doesn't stand to lose much under management's new proposals.

In fact, they have EVERYTHING to lose, in the last 5-10 years of their careers when they aren't young enough to start over and EVER get back to where they were.

The FACT that 92% of the voting pilots said "Shut The Fu*ker Down" under those circumstances sends a CLEAR signal to management that they're barking up the wrong tree.

I think we'll see some real movement tomorrow before the judge rules. In fact, I'm betting that management BEGS for another 24-48 hours, making it Friday before he rules, so management can try to salvage something.

 

[FDJ2]

If they strike, both side agree that Northwest is OVER.

WOW,..

Which makes a 92% strike authorization even more impressive. Management might decide that their over reach isn't worth a strike, which is the most likely scenario. The NWA pilots have given their negotiators some much needed leverage at the table. It should be an interesting day at the court house.

 

[FDJ2]

I think we'll see some real movement tomorrow before the judge rules. In fact, I'm betting that management BEGS for another 24-48 hours, making it Friday before he rules, so management can try to salvage something.

Excellent points, and the above scenario won't surprise me in the least.

 

[suupah]

it is about time. it takes incredible courage on the part of NW pilots.<-----------respect and just shows that the breaking point is being reached in this so called profession.

 

[Mercyful Fate]

Wow, those numbers are impressive! All eyes are on this, going to be interesting to see what happens. Good luck all you NWA guys..

 

[gkrangers]

When is the judge supposed to rule?

 

[727Capt]

So almost 10% didn't vote, and then almost 10% voted NO. Not very impressive if you ask me, especially from "Cobra" Airlines. The chinks in ALPA's armor continue to show...

Wow, That's an amazing leap of logic. The NWA pilots overwhelmingly step up to the plate and refuse to allow the execs at NW to pull the contract from them under the approval of a bankruptcy judge. From that you spew out your continued anti-ALPA B.S. I wonder who filled out those ballot forms...the pilots or the big ALPA monster? Joe, grow up and realize the facts, this industry is under an assault from all directions and we should fight the battle with every tool we have at our disposal.

uke:

 

[YourPilotFriend]

When is the judge supposed to rule?

When pigs fly. No judge has the balls to throw out a contract.

 

[GogglesPisano]

Good luck NWA pilots.

 

[ReverseSensing]

Wow, That's an amazing leap of logic.

Actually, by Flightinfo standards, that's only an average leap of logic.









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[Going2Baja]

Well, no it isn't. 20% not voting yes isn't that impressive for a radical group like the "cobra" NWA pilots. It will be more than 30% of the DAL pilots who don't vote yes. ALPA is having it's roosters come home to roost and most of you are in denial....

You sound more like a Dirt Merchant....How did you get 20%. It's 10% and that doesn't even mean they were going to vote no. Shut your pie hole kook!

The line has been drawn....Let's see how high the tide comes.

Baja.

 

[Mav204]

If the judge rules in mgt's favor, when will the strike happen?

 

[YourPilotFriend]

I was just thinking, if we get the J4J and I have the chance to go back to flying, I might be in the left seat and with a new hire. That should be interesting seeing as I haven't flown an airplane in 5 years. Guess I'll have to get a new FAR/AIM and MS flight simulator and start practicing.

 

[Lear70]

If the judge rules in mgt's favor, when will the strike happen?

When management attempts to impose non-union sanctioned Scope violations, pay cuts, or QOL rule cuts.

The strike wouldn't be an "automatic" result of the bankruptcy judge ruling to void the contract according to statements made by the MEC, but rather an "automatic" result of the company then trying to force items the MEC considers "strike issues".

 

[General Lee]

Great turn out and vote numbers. I believe we will have the same at DL, and if the NW pilots force their company to actually negotiate, then that may even help our turn out even more. NW still has most of their senior pilots hoping for some sort of a pension, and you would think most of the top 25% would have voted NO to preserve that hope. It didn't happen like that. Most of our senior guys that could get a large pension or part of one got their's and LEFT THE BUILDING already. Our current senior guys are around 49 years old and are pi$$ed. We only have 250 guys left over 55 years old. (out of 6500) Good luck NW pilots!!!


Bye Bye--General Lee

 

[Bosley]

Well, no it isn't. 20% not voting yes isn't that impressive for a radical group like the "cobra" NWA pilots. It will be more than 30% of the DAL pilots who don't vote yes. ALPA is having it's roosters come home to roost and most of you are in denial....

Hey JB, why don't you save your anti alpa rhetoric for your circle jerk meetings at the rjdc! That is an excellent turn out and shows solidarity. But what more can we expect from a rjdc puke such as yourself! Shouldn't you be busy storming out of ASA mec meetings with the minutes so meetings can't continue!

 

[PCL_128]

So almost 10% didn't vote, and then almost 10% voted NO. Not very impressive if you ask me, especially from "Cobra" Airlines. The chinks in ALPA's armor continue to show...

You should probably be more concerned about how your recall vote is going to turn out. It's on the way, Johnny! How are you going to get your rocks off if you can't storm out of meetings anymore like a spoiled little girl?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Hey JB, why don't you save your anti alpa rhetoric for your circle jerk meetings at the rjdc! That is an excellent turn out and shows solidarity. But what more can we expect from a rjdc puke such as yourself! Shouldn't you be busy storming out of ASA mec meetings with the minutes so meetings can't continue!

Another impressive arguement from the ALPA cheerleaders. Do you have anything of substance to contribute or are you content with living in your little "ALPA can do no wrong" world?

 

[JoeMerchant]

You should probably be more concerned about how your recall vote is going to turn out. It's on the way, Johnny! How are you going to get your rocks off if you can't storm out of meetings anymore like a spoiled little girl?

More words of wisdom from the Gulfstream "paid to sit in the right seat ALPA expert". If I was a typical ALPA person I would be concerned, because most ALPA people will sacrifice beliefs for the position. I don't care - I will never change my beliefs because of political correctness. If the Emporer has no cloths, then he has no cloths. No amount of denial will change it. ALPA has no cloths, but nobody in power will say it. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. Maybe someday I will have the vast industry knowledge that you have.....

 

[dbrownie]

Great turn out and vote numbers. I believe we will have the same at DL, and if the NW pilots force their company to actually negotiate, then that may even help our turn out even more. NW still has most of their senior pilots hoping for some sort of a pension, and you would think most of the top 25% would have voted NO to preserve that hope. It didn't happen like that. Most of our senior guys that could get a large pension or part of one got their's and LEFT THE BUILDING already. Our current senior guys are around 49 years old and are pi$$ed. We only have 250 guys left over 55 years old. (out of 6500) Good luck NW pilots!!!


Bye Bye--General Lee

General Lee;

Thanks for the support. I think any thing over 90% would have been great.
It still amazes me that hundreds of morons don't even vote!
As of today the pension is frozen (I think it soon will be cancelled) and
the reality of working under a crap contract has hit home for most guys.

This mgt group can't leave fast enough with their bags of cash, what will be left is what we will have to live with. They really want to be able to break up the place and sell off chunks.

There will be no winners in this game....

Dave B

 

[Bosley]

Another impressive arguement from the ALPA cheerleaders. Do you have anything of substance to contribute or are you content with living in your little "ALPA can do no wrong" world?

Impressive argument? HA! I'm laughing at you girls from the rjdc! All you do is ask for more documents, dish out industry updates, and tell your supporters the fight is on strong. Well answer this one Jonny boy, Why is it that you continue to dump money down a black hole such as the rjdc? Why do you continually act like a child at mec meetings? Your behavior is typical of your pathetic rjdc! Keep up the good work!