NWA says it will cut flights, ground planes

[ACL65PILOT]

Fin,
You and I both know that the lower end of the market needs to be protected to protect the high end main line jobs.
That said, we need to do something about scope now, during these negotiations. It is best time. For once there is something besides money that management is looking for from the pilots. Yes, it still comes down to money, but this is time that we have their backs to the fire. I do not think that we collectively as a group get that.
The only why that this will be heard is to call your representatives and express your opinion. I know I have.
Fact is that Compass could be brought in to the fold very easily during this merger. It would solve a lot.

 

[Superpilot92]

The reductions are in addition to the 2008 fleet plan.

Yeah i just read the email. Its a good thing i had a few beers with the crew before i read it. I really think all this is tied together with the merger. DAL and NWA mgmt are playing out of the same playbook with all this stuff. The good news is that they seem to be trying to be proactive by stopping hiring on both ends. They could have and in the past probably would have just kept hiring through summer just to furlough people after the busy summer was over with. Both companies are pretty lean and both companies are getting more aircraft so either way more pilots are going to be needed. Maybe i should go back down for another beer :beer:

 

[Abbey]

It would appear that telling NWA "thanks but no thanks" on the interview offer was a good call. The published financials told me that they really didn't have a job to offer.

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Yeah i just read the email. Its a good thing i had a few beers with the crew before i read it. I really think all this is tied together with the merger. DAL and NWA mgmt are playing out of the same playbook with all this stuff. The good news is that they seem to be trying to be proactive by stopping hiring on both ends. They could have and in the past probably would have just kept hiring through summer just to furlough people after the busy summer was over with. Both companies are pretty lean and both companies are getting more aircraft so either way more pilots are going to be needed. Maybe i should go back down for another beer :beer:

Perhaps... if it will keep up your optimism. Drink one for me if you think it'll improve my mood.

(Then again, I've already had several, so... YMMV...)

 

[NuGuy]

Fact is that Compass could be brought in to the fold very easily during this merger. It would solve a lot.

Heyas ACL,

Agreed. With the 175s in place, 190s/195s could be brought in as a no brainer.

Big things are afoot...some good, some bad. Here's to meeting you in ATL or MSP for a brew soon...

Nu

 

[Superpilot92]

Heyas ACL,

Agreed. With the 175s in place, 190s/195s could be brought in as a no brainer.

Big things are afoot...some good, some bad. Here's to meeting you in ATL or MSP for a brew soon...

Nu

Agreed, regardless of our differences if this is going to happen we need to stick together. 1 solid pilot group has a lot more control then 2 divided pilot groups. Cheers!!:beer:

 

[MJ42]

Plyt,

I guess this is when MJ42 comes on and tells me how clueless I am about fuel rising and parking DC9'sWhat...not smart enough to predict the 757 and airbuses thrown in the mix. your crystal ball was off a little, huh? at a faster rate. Damn, To bad I don't have common sense!

You are clueless. 2 DC9's before summer and more in fall. You're a cocky ass that spouted off. I just said you have no idea what will happen and either do I! You have baseless info with no facts in most of your posts. Most of your info is from FI...loser! Go back to your dash. You're still full of yourself. Still laughing at your ignorant posts.:laugh:

 

[FmrFreightDog]

Heyas ACL,

Agreed. With the 175s in place, 190s/195s could be brought in as a no brainer.

Big things are afoot...some good, some bad. Here's to meeting you in ATL or MSP for a brew soon...

Nu

For my part... cookout in Marietta for all Cobb County Delta guys and NWA commuters if this thing is announced... no fighting... keg is on me and the wife. Only wish that if they really wanted to do this thing that they would have announced the merger during crawfish season.... With a couple hundred dead mudbugs, some corn, some potatoes, and some heat, there ain't nothing you can't work out.

 

[737 Pylt]

Man, with all this love, I'm getting all misty eyed.:crying:
I wonder how long this will all last or will DTW320 come on here and spout off some more of his hatred?!:bomb:

737

 

[jonjuan]

Here we go. I bet things get hot in the next week between NWA and DL.....

There will be no merger between NWA and DAL.

 

[jehtplane]

Fin,
You and I both know that the lower end of the market needs to be protected to protect the high end main line jobs.
That said, we need to do something about scope now, during these negotiations. It is best time. For once there is something besides money that management is looking for from the pilots. Yes, it still comes down to money, but this is time that we have their backs to the fire. I do not think that we collectively as a group get that.
The only why that this will be heard is to call your representatives and express your opinion. I know I have.
Fact is that Compass could be brought in to the fold very easily during this merger. It would solve a lot.

Too late for Scope, the big @$&#burger is coming

 

[DTW320]

This message is hidden because 737 Pylt is on your ignore list.

I'm sorry.....did someone say something?

 

[jonjuan]

Yeah Its a good thing i had a few beers with the crew before i read it. :beer:

Are you old enough to drink? I thought you had to be at least 27 to be a major airline pilot. Do the granny FAs buy you beers or do you buy theirs?

 

[FmrFreightDog]

There will be no merger between NWA and DAL.

That's about the eighth time you've posted that exact sentiment.... verbatim.....

Might as well say," The Maginot line is impenetrable." Any hard facts you'd like to offer up to back up your opinion??? Just curious...

 

[Superpilot92]

Are you old enough to drink? I thought you had to be at least 27 to be a major airline pilot. Do the granny FAs buy you beers or do you buy theirs?

Well its your lucky day, I am 27 oh and Granny flight attendants dont drink beer they head straight for the liquer. :laugh:

 

[FmrFreightDog]

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I wonder how long this will all last or will DTW320 come on here and spout off some more of his hatred?!737

Pot... Kettle. Kettle.. Pot.... Beers are in the fridge, and cocktail weenies are on the table.... get acquainted......

 

[Superpilot92]

For my part... cookout in Marietta for all Cobb County Delta guys and NWA commuters if this thing is announced... no fighting... keg is on me and the wife. Only wish that if they really wanted to do this thing that they would have announced the merger during crawfish season.... With a couple hundred dead mudbugs, some corn, some potatoes, and some heat, there ain't nothing you can't work out.

Now we are talkin!!:beer: Nothing like a good crawfish festival to start the festivities

 

[ACL65PILOT]

Too late for Scope, the big @$&#burger is coming

Do not count your chickens before they hatch. I would be very surprised if there was not some proviso on the new PWA concerning this flying. Not all but most of the connection flying will be stopped at 76 seats. If not I will not vote for it.

 

[jehtplane]

Do not count your chickens before they hatch. I would be very surprised if there was not some proviso on the new PWA concerning this flying. Not all but most of the connection flying will be stopped at 76 seats. If not I will not vote for it.

Didn't the big GL say nothing above 70 seats and then all of the sudden it made sense to him. DELTA HAS TO BE THE WORST AIRLINE WITH SCOPE CLAUSES IN THE INDUSTRY. IF THEY ARE NOT PROVE ME WRONG.

 

[ACL65PILOT]

No I agree that we have dropped the ball. The only one that was worse was USAir.
CAL and NWA have done better. You could argue that we gave up scope to keep better pay and work rules. We did that. I guess we had to give somewhere and that is where we gave. But now it is time to take it back.
Economically the way that the DCI agreements are written, I cannot see how management would want to keep doing this. They are paying for 100% load factors as well as a 7-12 profit margin. That is not cheap.

 

[737 Pylt]

I'm sorry.....did someone say something?

Aaw come on greenbook.....You can dish it out, but can't take it......:crying: :crying: :crying:

737

 

[ACL65PILOT]

No I agree that we have dropped the ball. The only one that was worse was USAir.
CAL and NWA have done better. You could argue that we gave up scope to keep better pay and work rules. We did that. I guess we had to give somewhere and that is where we gave. But now it is time to take it back.
Economically the way that the DCI agreements are written, I cannot see how management would want to keep doing this. They are paying for 100% load factors as well as a 7-12 profit margin. That is not cheap.

 

[WSurf]

You are clueless. 2 DC9's before summer and more in fall. You're a cocky ass that spouted off. I just said you have no idea what will happen and either do I! You have baseless info with no facts in most of your posts. Most of your info is from FI...loser! Go back to your dash. You're still full of yourself. Still laughing at your ignorant posts.:laugh:

There you go again with the name calling! Don't worry you be outta the ol' nasty DC9 and flying that modern E-175 in no time.

Still laughing at the fact I was right a month ago!
Let me go on to back to the regional board, just wanted to lay some smack down on ya.

 

[MJ42]

There you go again with the name calling! Don't worry you be outta the ol' nasty DC9 and flying that modern E-175 in no time.

Still laughing at the fact I was right a month ago!
Let me go on to back to the regional board, just wanted to lay some smack down on ya.

Wow, you're so smart! What insight, you should be in management. Again, the only thin I said is no one knows how fast or slow NWA will park the 9's. But your ego needs puffing up. What low self esteem you must have!

2 more 9's before summer and 10 more overall by end of year. Things will change many times befor the end of the year. BTW, I haven't heard of any flowbacks announced. Try Airbus for me in the near future, little man.

 

[ExAF]

Ma Sha

With a couple hundred dead mudbugs, some corn, some potatoes, and some heat, there ain't nothing you can't work out.

Now you tawkin Sha. Brought dem mudbugs on. We'll had ourselves dat pawty.:beer:

 

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Do not count your chickens before they hatch. I would be very surprised if there was not some proviso on the new PWA concerning this flying. Not all but most of the connection flying will be stopped at 76 seats. If not I will not vote for it.

What does that mean? You see Connection going over 76 seats?