NWA Hiring scoop???

[EV120]

I have been hearing more and more tha NWA will have to start hiring in the near future...if not a few months ago. In fact, NWA has updated their website saying that hiring is now anticipated in the next 3-6 months.

Has anyone with NWA heard what the application process, minimums, and interview process will be? Additionally what is the timeframe, and where will newhires go (Equip/DOM)?

Thanks

 

[Frank Lorenzo]

I have been hearing more and more tha NWA will have to start hiring in the near future...if not a few months ago. In fact, NWA has updated their website saying that hiring is now anticipated in the next 3-6 months.

Has anyone with NWA heard what the application process, minimums, and interview process will be? Additionally what is the timeframe, and where will newhires go (Equip/DOM)?Thanks

The first step is to apply for welfare and food stamps at either DTW, MSP, or MEM. If you do not qualify, you will probably not be able to live off of NWA wages alone and may have to shoot for a higher paying airline, like Big Sky or Great Lakes Airlines. Consider a part time job as a Skycap or shoe shine man if you do get stuck at NWA.

There are some hidden perks with getting hired at NWA. I believe that they are now throwing in a lifetime supply of personal lubricant if you sign on as an FO. Also, they are providing FREE divorce lawyer services to pay for your impending divorce after you are home for 2 days off every month.

Good luck!

 

[ferlo]

Not to be a D-bag, but who in their right mind would consider applying there?

 

[JoeMerchant]

Then what value is a flow through to NWA...... Hmmmm...... I thought a mainline job was the promised land.... it isn't???

 

[filejw]

First year pay 30$ per hr. Second yr is 57$/ 65$ depending on eq.

 

[amt]

Plus you get to fly the modern 1960 DC-9 and average age of 65 years old F/A's...and seat on reserve in great Detroit !

 

[instructordude]

Not to be a D-bag, but who in their right mind would consider applying there?

:laugh: Me baby! Me!:laugh:

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

Not to be a D-bag, but who in their right mind would consider applying there?

I Agree. If you don't have any other choices (ie.Cal,Dal,Fedex,Ups,Swa,Airtran, overseas, did I leave anyone out?) We are what Cal was during the 83-mid 90s time frame. Pretty much better than a regional but not much better. Not good enough for a senior capt to go to but probably ok for a young jr capt. or fo. If anything use it as interview prep course, and if you get hired you can allways quit and go to the flavor of the month. The company has good frontline employees like most, just beaten down and worn out. Hopefully at some point the investors/board will see that building A(headquarters) needs a serious enema. Just getting rid of Steenland won't solve our problems. There is incompetence at many levels of this company. We need a thourough cleansing ala Gordon at Cal. Keeping the faith that it will happen at some point.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

And why exactly are you interested in flying with those cork-soakers?

I have been hearing more and more tha NWA will have to start hiring in the near future...if not a few months ago. In fact, NWA has updated their website saying that hiring is now anticipated in the next 3-6 months.

Has anyone with NWA heard what the application process, minimums, and interview process will be? Additionally what is the timeframe, and where will newhires go (Equip/DOM)?

Thanks

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

Of course you would, you disgusting ******************************bag. You work for HoJets. You'd sell your Mother for some jet time. You harlots (i.e. Wannabe scabs) make me sick. I sincerely hope you get the career you deserve. I just pray you spineless turds don't bring the rest of us down with you...

:laugh: Me baby! Me!:laugh:

 

[Cobraair75drvr]

Bob,

And who might you work for???

 

[EV120]

OK....sarcasm and posts blasting the company aside, does anyone have any legitimate information? I read the news, I know what has happened with the company and the moral problems that are occuring. I am in the belief that when the management is "cleaned", NWA will be a great place again.

I have my reasons for wanting to work there. I am currently enjoying a fairly good life. However I am employed by a large "regional" as a line check airman, and life with a major would be the same, and more than likely better than where I am now. At least I would not have pilots with temp. certificates trying to keep me from coming home alive.

There is less of a future where I am now, than there would be at NWA. Also, I want to get my family back to MN, and NWA would be a way to not commute (eventually).

BTW whats wrong with a DC-9? They are built like tanks and have more room the a modern RJ... glass is not best thing in the world either. Additionally, the FA's aren't that great when I am, and I really do not care, my wife takes care of me better than any FA ever could.

Even the "flavors of the month" are not immune to downsizing and corporate raiders.

Can anyone really answer the original question????

(Don't correct my spelling or grammer...I really don't care. I am not a writer.)

 

[EV120]

Sorry I double posted....

 

[C-135 Backer]

Has anyone with NWA heard what the application process, minimums, and interview process will be? Additionally what is the timeframe, and where will newhires go (Equip/DOM)?

Thanks[/quote]

I currently am furloughed from NWA and can't afford to go back. I was furloughed just short of one complete year and have been continually screwed over by the company and to a lesser degree, NWA ALPA. They are currently going through the recall list and approximately 50% of those available for recall are resigning their seniority. They should start hiring soon as they are woefully short now and will not get the number of furloughed pilots to come back that they thought. The union is not pressing for longevity credit for us, not trying to protect our seniority number and have continually consented to outsourcing to protect their pension.

They should have something in an online format in about a month. Minimums will probably be pretty low commensurate with the low pay that they extracted during bankruptcy. You can expect the DC9 to Detroit on reserve. I don't think this will change for awhile. Things to keep in mind. This is a mainline outfit that is downsizing. The fear is that they either will merge or will continue to outsource more of their flying to Compass, Pinnacle and Mesaba. I think you can expect a lot of time on the bottom of the list if not flowed throught to Compass, Mesaba or Pinnacle. Good luck! I'm doing my part to protect junior wages, but I don't think anyone cares. Not a good time.

 

[xjhawk]

I am waiting to see what our union says about our flow through program that NWA-and NWA ALPA have agreed on. Some of our union reps are being closed mouthed about the specifics, or as soon as they make up their mind about how it will suit us. They have our entire group to think about, seems to me they will make the right moves.

For me, I will use it as a back up to a couple other places I would like to go. Keeping in mind such factors as NWA's bad rep for employee relations, MSP base, their bad pay etc. keep in mind, they allowed the flow through (NWA management) because they fore see them being low on every ones list of majors they want to go to

 

[Jmoney]

NWA & Instructordude.....

:laugh: Me baby! Me!:laugh:

Sometimes there is true magic in these things-a true f-tard like instructordude working for this sorry, sorry airline like NWA...... That would be a beautiful thing... Just don't forget to tell your wife that you are batting 80% on your overnights at NWA too...
-Nice

 

[Going2Baja]

Has anyone with NWA heard what the application process, minimums, and interview process will be? Additionally what is the timeframe, and where will newhires go (Equip/DOM)?

Thanks

I currently am furloughed from NWA and can't afford to go back. I was furloughed just short of one complete year and have been continually screwed over by the company and to a lesser degree, NWA ALPA. They are currently going through the recall list and approximately 50% of those available for recall are resigning their seniority. They should start hiring soon as they are woefully short now and will not get the number of furloughed pilots to come back that they thought. The union is not pressing for longevity credit for us, not trying to protect our seniority number and have continually consented to outsourcing to protect their pension.

They should have something in an online format in about a month. Minimums will probably be pretty low commensurate with the low pay that they extracted during bankruptcy. You can expect the DC9 to Detroit on reserve. I don't think this will change for awhile. Things to keep in mind. This is a mainline outfit that is downsizing. The fear is that they either will merge or will continue to outsource more of their flying to Compass, Pinnacle and Mesaba. I think you can expect a lot of time on the bottom of the list if not flowed throught to Compass, Mesaba or Pinnacle. Good luck! I'm doing my part to protect junior wages, but I don't think anyone cares. Not a good time.[/quote]

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Did you forget the free $$$ we all got once they came out of BK? I was 2 yr and got $72k less taxes. I'd say ALPA did us a solid.

Baja.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

I am interested in NWA. Why? A number of reasons, starting with the easy commute to DTW, or, better yet, MSP. The next best airline for commuting for me would be UAL, and I think that NWA is a much better choice than UAL now.

I like my current job, but I know that working at NWA would be significantly better. I'd have an APU, I wouldn't have to load freight, and I wouldn't be on call for 72 consecutive hours (or 240, my current record) and then pull a 20 hour duty day. My wife would save about $7K (in an average year) on airline tickets, and she could fly home to see her family every month.

I know some guys at NWA. One guy is on third year FO pay, and made $75K this year. I am on fourth year Captain pay and made about $65K. He got about $80K in the bankruptcy settlement. The schedule at NWA is light years better than where I am now. The guy there (he used to be here) said it's much easier, he's home a lot more, and his quality of life is tons better than where I am now. He requested a reserve line in DTW because that puts him at home more.

Interestingly, he said there are better airlines to go to other than NWA, such as DAL. Then, I talked to my buddy at DAL, and he said DAL was terrible, and I should try for a better airline. It's all relative.

I did apply at FedEx and SWA. FedEx isn't hiring for a year or so, and SWA employees will probably be forced to take pay concessions this year. They have to radically change their business model to stay the number one passenger airline in the US. Will it work???

cliff
YIP

 

[Redtailer]

No word

The reason you guys are not hearing anything is that HR hasn't made up its mind when or how many to hire.

Spoke to the HR folks directly a few weeks ago. They will not know when they will hire until they know how many furlougees are going to come back. They are currently making their way back up the list and still don't have any termination rates.

Just for planning purposes they are still planning on hiring beginning of next year. If they don't get enough people to accept recall then they will start earlier. HR is already gearing up for the hiring process they just need to pull the trigger. However, they are still determining hiring criteria and other factors such as the now defunct golden recommendation program. No decision has been made if they will reinstate the golden recommendation program.

When hiring does start expect approx. 25 new hires per month. That's the most NATCO can push through right now. It's possible they could train more instructors to get more folks through, but don't hold your breath.

They will have about 3 months lead time on hiring. So if they intend on training in Feb. you may see apps in Oct-Nov. time frame.

The pay and work rules will come back. I just feel sorry for the new hires because you won't have a real retirement. The new B-Scale has begun.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Unfortunately for us, the front-line workers, pretty much all the traditional "good" retirement plans are gone. It's mostly a 401K with matching, or nothing at all, for most of us.

On the other hand, top management people are raking in the big bucks, merging, selling out, and taking companies in and out of bankruptcies.

My current company does have a matching 401K, which NWA doesn't. It's one of the few ways in which my currrent job is better than NWA.

cliff
YIP

 

[WMUSIGPI]

First year pay 30$ per hr. Second yr is 57$/ 65$ depending on eq.

It beats $23/hr on a Saab or CRJ

 

[C-135 Backer]

Did you forget the free $$$ we all got once they came out of BK? I was 2 yr and got $72k less taxes. I'd say ALPA did us a solid.

Baja.[/quote]

Baja,

Did not forget it at all. It was very nice and totally unexpected. Mine was not as large as yours and shrunk from the original announcement. The only reason that we got that money is because they gave it to the retired guys. They couldn't figure out a way to give it to them and not give it to the furloughed guys who weren't back at the company yet. I've been talking with my rep constantly and I can tell you that for the most part they just wish that the furloughed/junior guys would go away. They are not giving any priority or willing to use any negotiating capital to obtain provisions (longevity credit) that are important to us. I could break even if I was at third year pay, but unfortunately, I did not complete my first year (fell short by three weeks) and did not get the credits that you did. Hope things are going well for you.

Backer

 

[Redtailer]

Atpcliff,

NWA does have a matching program but I forget what it is.. The retirement for folks on the property now and newhires will be different. If you are on the property you will receive something around 8% non matching once everything is done.

For new hires I think it is just a straight 5% match.. I know someone will correct me on those figures.

The bottom line is that it's still better than any commuter, but that is not saying a whole lot for retirement purposes. This is no longer a career it's a job.

 

[atpcliff]

Hi!

Well, that's better than I read. It is about the same as where I am now, and basically everything else is better.

cliff
YIP

 

[filejw]

Baja,
Longevitycredit? People have been asking for it at least 30 yrs. When I was furloughed we asked too. Nobody every gotit.Not​

a new subject.

Redtail​

. Golden Recommendation? Never heard of it.
ATPCLIFF, NWA gives ALPA 5% for each pilot. Some get 8% but new hires will get like 3% senior guys zero . The idea is to make the people in the middle who were most effected by shutting down the pension whole.

 

[Fly4hire]

If you were 3 weeks shy of completing your first year you are not coming back for reason you do not mention here - most likely you have a better gig going. FWIW, if you came back you'd be 2nd year pay before you complete sims.......

 

[C-135 Backer]

If you were 3 weeks shy of completing your first year you are not coming back for reason you do not mention here - most likely you have a better gig going. FWIW, if you came back you'd be 2nd year pay before you complete sims.......

Hi Fly4hire,

I did mention it. I can't afford to come back at $30 or $57 an hour. I do want to come back as I enjoy the upper midwest and the NW pilots are great to work with. I gave up my military career to pursue an airline career. I do have a pretty good gig as it will take me about 7 years once back to make what I'm making now. No regrets. You have to play the hand your dealt.

Backer

 

[The Victors]

Hi!

Well, that's better than I read. It is about the same as where I am now, and basically everything else is better.

cliff
YIP

hey cliff. If you're doing the usajet thing, then nwa is probably better. If you do get hired, though, I wouldn't stop applying EVERYWHERE else (except maybe UAL) for a while.

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

I fly for a rather large 737 operator based down south. My animosity towards the NW group is based on the experiences from when I was with JetBlue. The snotty attitudes, and petty jumpseat wars perpetuated by the Northwest crews was absolutely disgusting. The fact that I proudly wore my ALPA Battlestar and was on the union organizing committee while at JetBlue didn't count for anything. All you NW putzes ever cared to see was a blue shirt, and you were all so scared, that you behaved like 5 year-olds, taking your ball and going home. I'm sure there are some great guys and gals at Northwest. It was just that whenever I ran into them at airports, hotel vans, etc., I never saw it.

Bob,

And who might you work for???

 

[Bob_Sacamano]

You have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.

I did apply at FedEx and SWA. FedEx isn't hiring for a year or so, and SWA employees will probably be forced to take pay concessions this year. They have to radically change their business model to stay the number one passenger airline in the US. Will it work???

cliff
YIP