NWA FA Strike Blocked For Now.

[Hulk Hogan]

Found it as of 1521 (I stole from the majors section).NEW YORK, Aug 25 (Reuters) - A New York federal judge on Friday issued a temporary injunction preventing Northwest Airlines Corp. (NWACQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) flight attendants from striking, and said he needed more time before ruling on the matter."The court believes time for consideration for examining the bodies' arguments more exhaustively is essential," said Judge Victor Marrero in federal court in Manhattan after hearing arguments from flight attendants and the air carrier. "The court's rendering of a determination at this time would not be prudent."

 

[WMUSIGPI]

What gives? I thought the court already ruled the F/A's could strike.

 

[CFIse]

What gives? I thought the court already ruled the F/A's could strike.

A court said they could strike - a higher court has now said they cannot.

 

[DoinTime]

What gives? I thought the court already ruled the F/A's could strike.

Nobody ever said they could strike. The bankruptcy court determined that they did not have the juridiction to rule on the matter and would not prohibit the work action.

 

[XJohXJ]

A court said they could strike - a higher court has now said they cannot.

Good old american pro-corporate justice. And, yes, Bush's justice department told them to say "no".

 

[Abbey]

Just as Clinton's did with the American pilots. Don't get sidetracked here boys. There are no politicians that are pro labor. Except for illegal labor. Both the Dems and GOP are in complete agreement with regards to criminals.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

1. how long is temporary? 2. When temporary is over and there is still no decision then I think the strings will become visable. One of these days you would think they would tug on wrong string. Cya

 

[DoinTime]

Just as Clinton's did with the American pilots. Don't get sidetracked here boys.

Incorrect...

Clinton exercised a last second Presidential Emergency Board. This is a long-standing legitimate part of the Railway Labor Act. PEB's are just an extension of the 30 day cooling off period and enhanced facilitation of the non-binding mediation process. After the PEB expires the parties are free to do what they like.

What the Bush administration justice department and politically appointed federal judges are doing is keeping the NW FA's hostage while a protracted legal battle plays out. The outcome will most likely be in favor of who has the most money and political clout.

There are no politicians that are pro labor.

I would never call the Dems pro labor but they have a consistent track record of fair labor practices. Republicans would just as soon drive over labor with a truck rather than accommodate or facilitate fairness. Even a cursory review of the history of organized labor in America will leave you with this same conclusion.

Except for illegal labor. Both the Dems and GOP are in complete agreement with regards to criminals.

Seems to me that Bush wants to make criminals citizens. I don't think that is in complete agreement with representatives of the Democratic party.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

Nobody ever said they could strike.

I thought they were legal to strike a while ago, but they held off after the fluid-bombers. No one told them they couldn't strike until today.

 

[DoinTime]

I thought they were legal to strike a while ago, but they held off after the fluid-bombers. No one told them they couldn't strike until today.

True statement that nobody told them they couldn't strike until until today but nobody had told them yet that they could strike either.

 

[ImbracableCrunk]

True statement that nobody told them they couldn't strike until until today but nobody had told them yet that they could strike either.

I thought that when NW imposed the contract, the FAs were able to engage in self-help. (No, not that!)

 

[blackbox]

Found it as of 1521 (I stole from the majors section).NEW YORK, Aug 25 (Reuters) - A New York federal judge on Friday issued a temporary injunction preventing Northwest Airlines Corp. (NWACQ.PK: Quote, Profile, Research) flight attendants from striking, and said he needed more time before ruling on the matter."The court believes time for consideration for examining the bodies' arguments more exhaustively is essential," said Judge Victor Marrero in federal court in Manhattan after hearing arguments from flight attendants and the air carrier. "The court's rendering of a determination at this time would not be prudent."

it might as well be an injunction. this is total BS.....

 

[DoinTime]

I thought that when NW imposed the contract, the FAs were able to engage in self-help. (No, not that!)

There are no laws that directly deal with this situation.

 

[flyer172r]

1. how long is temporary? 2. When temporary is over and there is still no decision then I think the strings will become visable. One of these days you would think they would tug on wrong string. Cya

From the article I read, both sides are supposed to negotiate a new agreement and report back to the judge on Wednesday. Seeing as how NW has already implemented their own terms, I rate the chances of them getting a TA to be slightly better than the chances of the universe ending tomorrow.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

A TA has to be had somewhere down the road right? I can't remember the reason but I was surprised to read that after NWA implemented their own terms that they were still willing to work towards an agreement. Maybe to exit??? I really can't remember.

 

[John Pennekamp]

Let me get this straight...

The court says management can impose whatever terms it wishes, but ordered an injunction that the FAs must keep working under those terms and cannot strike or face contempt charges. Generally, this includes mass resignations.

So now we have a Federal court entering people into slave labor? Whether you're a dem or repub, you have to admit that the Bush Administration, and its appointees have been the most hostile toward organized labor in the history of unions.

 

[wmuflyguy]

Let me get this straight...

The court says management can impose whatever terms it wishes, but ordered an injunction that the FAs must keep working under those terms and cannot strike or face contempt charges. Generally, this includes mass resignations.

So now we have a Federal court entering people into slave labor? Whether you're a dem or repub, you have to admit that the Bush Administration, and its appointees have been the most hostile toward organized labor in the history of unions.

It is crap that they can not strike, but It is not slave labor, they are free to quit and leave whenever they feel like it. Slaves didn't have that luxury.

This is union busting.

 

[Hulk Hogan]

There was no ruling and that is where the problems lays. The injunction is for 5 days and then the court may make a decision. I think the court is wishing to not make a decision. Probably worried about his legacy or something. Cya

 

[John Pennekamp]

It is crap that they can not strike, but It is not slave labor, they are free to quit and leave whenever they feel like it. Slaves didn't have that luxury.

This is union busting.

It is union busting. And it's ridiculous. America's working class needs to go on the rally and fight back. Every union needs to stand up when one gets crapped on. That's Trade Unionism, something the American labor movement has lost touch with.

 

[JoeMerchant]

Let me get this straight...

So now we have a Federal court entering people into slave labor? Whether you're a dem or repub, you have to admit that the Bush Administration, and its appointees have been the most hostile toward organized labor in the history of unions.

You didn't get it straight. This judge was appointed by William Jefferson Clinton, you know, the President that ordered the American pilots back to work.

Isn't your quote "so now we have a Federal court entering people into slave labor" a little over the top? Is the court making these flight attendants work for Northwest? Would you keep working as "slave labor"? Aside from the issue of whether or not this ruling is right, nobody is forcing these people to be FAs for NWA, and they are not "slave labor".

 

[JoeMerchant]

It is union busting. And it's ridiculous. America's working class needs to go on the rally and fight back. Every union needs to stand up when one gets crapped on. That's Trade Unionism, something the American labor movement has lost touch with.

ALPA wouldn't know "Trade Unionism" if it bit them in the A$$!

 

[Bizjet]

ALPA wouldn't know "Trade Unionism" if it bit them in the A$$!

Hey Joey I see you washed up on shore again. Before you vanish for another couple of weeks (unless Mommy lets you use the computer more) could you please return the LEC minutes from the last LEC meeting you attended 18 months ago? You know the minutes you stole and refused to return! Maybe you could get Mommy to return them. Or maybe she could hold your hand and let you walk up to the podium and return the minutes. If we passed a resolution guaranteeing you safe passage and allowing you 2 minutes to pound on the podium with a gavel and curse ALPA and Duane Woerth would you return the minutes under those conditions? Come on you are the master negotiator with a couple of months of experience--make an offer! How about a free ticket for a walking tour of the Air and Space Museum. I understand you were too tipsy to enjoy your crawling tour there in '98'. Lets make a deal!!:laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

 

[Bizjet]

You didn't get it straight. This judge was appointed by William Jefferson Clinton, you know, the President that ordered the American pilots back to work.

Isn't your quote "so now we have a Federal court entering people into slave labor" a little over the top? Is the court making these flight attendants work for Northwest? Would you keep working as "slave labor"? Aside from the issue of whether or not this ruling is right, nobody is forcing these people to be FAs for NWA, and they are not "slave labor".

Joey maybe you can share your tipps on how to file suit when you don't get your way. You can give the NWA F/A's the low down on how to sue your way to riches. You da man Joey help um out ther! Joey, Joey he's our man if he can't make you rich with a law suit NOBODY CAN!:laugh:

 

[John Pennekamp]

ALPA wouldn't know "Trade Unionism" if it bit them in the A$$!

And *********** would? That's rich.

Tell us all about your record in trade unionism, Joey! Let's see... trying to sue your way into a Delta cockpit because you know your drunk arse will never pass an interview. Siding with management to undermine our CBA, a Section 8 offense, worthy of expulsion from the union. Theft of union property. Abandoning the position you ran for and were elected to. Yeah, Joey, tell us all about your views on trade unionism!